Stephen Jenkinson is the author of Reckoning (2022), A Generation's Worth - Spirit work while the crisis reigns (2021), Come of Age, The Case for Elderhood in a Time of Trouble (2018), Die Wise, A Manifesto for Sanity and Soul (2015), How It All Could Be, A Workbook for dying people and those who love them (2009) and Money and the Soul's Desires: A Meditation (2002) as well as the subject of Griefwalker (2008, NFB- Dir. Tim Wilson) and Lost Nation Road (2019, Dir. Ian MacKenzie).

I'm thrilled to present to you an incredible episode delving deep into the often uncharted topic of death, our fears surrounding it, and the realm of palliative care with the wise and insightful Stephen Jenkinson. As the author of profound books such as "Die Wise" and "Come of Age," Stephen has transformed our understanding of mortality and the societal roles of elders.

We discuss the chances he took in institutional hospital settings and how our western culture has diverted from age-old practices surrounding death. Through our conversation, you'll realize the importance of reconnecting with our roots and gaining a more profound respect for the natural cycle of life.

We also delve into some unsettling trends seen in today’s society, such as our tendency to remove ourselves from ancestral traditions to form an identity while disconnecting from our heritage. We discuss the concept of elderhood, its vital cultural function, and the loss it has suffered in our modern culture. Stephen also sheds light on the fears of aging and dying and how understanding life's limitations can lead us to better self-improvement.

Swimming to the deep end, this episode ventures into the controversial topic of euthanasia's legalization in Canada, examines the impacts of a death-phobic culture, and contemplates suffering and pain as essential parts of our life and death narratives.

 
 

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00:01:58 — (Re)introducing: Death, Phobias & Palliative Care

00:11:25 — Inheriting a Ghost Culture and Reconnecting With Our Elders

  • Pillaging other ancestral traditions to find a sense of identity

  • Disconnecting from one's own heritage 

  • Elderhood as a cultural function

  • The loss of respect for elders in modern society

  • Read: Come of Age by Stephen Jenkinson

  • A conversation in Oaxaca City about elderhood

  • Brief observation around the phobia of aging and dying

  • Who goes into self improvement to obey the limits of life?

  • Understanding the limits that have been entrusted in you

00:33:09 — Legalization of Euthanasia in Canada & Dying in the Manner of One’s Living

  • How a death phobic culture masks euthanasia as “Maid Medical Assistance in Dying”

  • English language has no passive voice for our relationship with God

  • Anticipatory grief, understanding the verb "to die" 

  • Finding a way to say goodbye while you still can

  • Medication as an end-of-life value vs. end-of-life presence

  • Remembering Aldous Huxley's death involving an LSD journey

  • Why suffering and pain belong in matters of life and death 

  • Three teachers that have impacted Stephen’s work

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