Dr. Saladino is the leading authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet. He has used this diet to reverse autoimmune issues, chronic inflammation, and mental health issues in hundreds of patients, many of whom had been told their …

Dr. Saladino is the leading authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet. He has used this diet to reverse autoimmune issues, chronic inflammation, and mental health issues in hundreds of patients, many of whom had been told their conditions were untreatable. He is the host of the popular Fundamental Health podcast and the author of the bestselling book, The Carnivore Code. Dr. Saladino is board certified as a Physician Nutrition Specialist and in psychiatry and completed residency at the University of Washington. He lives in Austin, TX, and can frequently be found exploring wild places when he is not writing, researching, or working with clients.

There are a lot of diets out there — a LOT — and most of them inevitably disappear into obscurity after a few months or years because they are just coordinated marketing efforts capitalizing on a fad. 

So, how do we truly find what kind of diet works best for our bodies, as individuals and a species? I like to look to our biology and our history for clues.

That’s why I sat down with Dr. Paul Saladino, who is the leading authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet. He’s also the host of the popular Fundamental Health podcast and author of the best-selling book “The Carnivore Code: Unlocking the Secrets to Optimal Health by Returning to Our Ancestral Die.” 

He’s used this diet to reverse auto-immune issues, chronic inflammation, and mental health issues in hundreds of patients, many of whom were told their conditions were untreatable. He’s a fantastic wealth of information and everything he shares in this episode — as outlandish or contradictory to “conventional wisdom” as some of it might sound — is backed up by science.

I know this is going to be controversial for some people, but I urge you to listen and do a little research before you react.

 

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09:22 — “The Carnivore Code” & what humans should be eating for optimal health

  • Why we have to evaluate the relative value of plant and animal foods

  • What are the most valuable foods for humans?

  • What do we consider being healthy that is not very healthy?

  • Debunking the myths around red meat

13:54 —  Moving from a plant-based diet to a predominately animal-based diet

  • We don’t need to identify who we are by what we eat

  • You have the freedom to make the diet choices that are best for your health

  • The need for meat is written into our genes

  • Food is the biggest lever for manipulating your health; food is medicine

  • Understanding the root cause of health issues

  • The psychological benefits of an all-meat diet

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26:53 — Has there ever been a truly vegan population of humans on the planet in our history?

  • There has not been a vegan population as far as we know

  • We have also not had a fully carnivorous population, but many have been much closer

  • There are nutrients found in animal foods that do not exist in plants—but the inverse is not true

  • Why meat should have labels sharing their benefits

32:35 — Debunking myths around meat

  • Why the “blue zones” hypothesis is shoddy science

  • What gets left out of this research

  • How longevity is based on genetics

  • The religious bias in this research

  • How companies seek to “chemically castrate” us by cutting off our access to testosterone-producing foods.

  • The correlation between blue zones and abstinence from tobacco and alcohol

  • Lower motility and sperm quality amongst vegans and vegetarians—even in blue zones

49:16 — Why plants suck for your health

  • Animal foods are incorrectly and unjustly vilified based on crappy science

  • Plants don’t want to be eaten, and they develop toxins to defend against that

  • Eliminating the most toxic plants for optimal health

  • There’s a broader spectrum of factors affecting humans than we are aware of and it’s important to consider that when looking at your health

  • Why seeds are harmful to humans

  • Polyphenols are not native to the human body… so why would those be good for us?

  • Taking redundant plant molecules while ignoring the side effects

  • Differentiating between molecular hormesis and environmental hormesis (also, what’s hormesis?)

  • Why Paul doesn’t eat black pepper

  • How you can get all of the benefits from plant-based foods without any of the side effects

  • Why fruit is so much better for the human body than vegetables

  • The top 10 most inflammatory or problematic plants

01:30:07 — Foods to avoid and foods to supplement on an all-meat diet

  • Eliminating all polyunsaturated vegetable oils from your diet

  • For or against omega-3’s and fish oil

  • Getting enough Vitamin C

  • Eating rare or medium-rare meat and raw organs

01:47:57 — Eating the animal “nose to tail”

  • The values of eating animal organs

  • Eating or using the entire animal nose-to-tail out of respect

  • If you are not eating liver or heart, you are going to be riboflavin-deficient

  • The peptides available in organs

  • Getting organ benefits from supplements

  • Adjusting your palate to the taste of organ meat

  • Taking liver shooters

01:58:44 —The difference between land-raised animals and seafood

  • Grass-fed beef liver vs. oysters

  • The heavy metal density of seafood

  • Comparing water quality to smog level

  • The arguments against fish

  • Fish should not be the mainstay of your diet

02:05:24 — The environmental impact of animal farms compared to vegetable farms

  • Check out "Sacred Cow"

  • The interest in regenerative agriculture

  • Why the quality of soil is paramount

  • Putting animals back on the same land as plants regenerates the soil

  • Scaling regenerative farming

  • Cows are carbon-negative, so how do they contribute to greenhouse gases?

  • Soil carbon could be the single differentiator whether humans are on this planet in a thousand years

02:13:22 —Lightning Round Q&A

  • If you have severe acid reflux, what meats are usually best?

  • Which plant foods are least harmful should you run out of meat while traveling?

  • What do you think of “high meat,” rotten, fermented meat?

  • Does coffee do anything to your mouth’s microbiome while on a carnivore diet to make it too acidic?

  • How do you lose weight on the carnivore diet?

  • Would you do a podcast with Danny Roddy about Ray Peat’s work?

  • Your thoughts on kombucha?

  • What do you use for soap and moisturizer?

  • Does carnivore resolve depression for everyone?


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