[00:00:48] Luke Storey: Caroline, why are minerals so important?

[00:00:53] Caroline Alan: Well, if we look around ourselves, this chair, microphone, the [00:01:00] building, all of the structure in our body, all of the structure in the entire universe is minerals. So they are the foundation for everything. That's number one. Number two is they are the fuel for energy generation in your body, one of the primary fuels with amino acids.

[00:01:20] Caroline Alan: So I kinda like to describe it like campfires inside your cells. Well, let's talk about it this way. If you're gonna build a campfire, you're gonna need some wood, some heavy fuel. You're gonna need some tinder, something that lights easily, and you're gonna need a match. So inside your cells, you've got all these potential campfires.

[00:01:42] Caroline Alan: The match is the mitochondria. It's the thing that has the ability to light that fuel and turn it into energy. The fuel itself, the heavy fuel is minerals, and that tinder is the amino acids. So you need both because it's hard to get the fuel [00:02:00] started without something that's easily burning, but you ha- and you have to have the match, all three together.

[00:02:06] Caroline Alan: And you've got quadrillions of these tiny potential campfires in your body, but you have to have the fuel. So if you don't have minerals, all of which come from the outside of your body, you won't be able to generate enough energy in your body to run all the functions. They're the foundation for ch- energy generation in your body.

[00:02:29] Luke Storey: I was thinking about the word electrolytes. You know- Yeah ... you guys make a great electrolyte product, and-

[00:02:34] Caroline Alan: Yeah ...

[00:02:35] Luke Storey: which was my favorite one because it doesn't-- I don't know. I feel like some of the ones that are made with just salt are not that great on your kidneys and stuff. We can, we can- Yeah, we can talk about that.

[00:02:44] Luke Storey: But, um, I was thinking about electrolytes and just their electrical potential, right? It's like minerals, they're, they're conductive.

[00:02:53] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[00:02:54] Luke Storey: And that's interesting. Um, you know, if you have distilled... I, I asked someone much smarter than me this at one point. I [00:03:00] forget what the answer was, but I had this theory that, um, you know, when you're in the bath and somebody were to throw a hairdryer in there, you would, you'd get fried.

[00:03:07] Luke Storey: And if there's no minerals in the water, if you had distilled water, would it still be conductive? It seems like, I don't know, I probably wouldn't advise one do that. But-

[00:03:15] Caroline Alan: Well, the, the reason you'd get electric is 'cause you had minerals in your body.

[00:03:19] Luke Storey: Ah, okay.

[00:03:20] Caroline Alan: There you go. Like, if you were very low, if you had, um, extremely, like, low minerals, first of all, you'd probably be dead, but-

[00:03:26] Luke Storey: Right

[00:03:27] Caroline Alan: anyway, the point is that this, this is the other reason minerals are so important, is they are the conductive material for all of the electrical impulses in your body. Water and minerals are the two things that carry electrical current through your body for all of your neurology. Right. And finally, they are also cofactors for every single biosynthesis process in your body.

[00:03:54] Caroline Alan: Every single one, whether it's thyroid or hormones or cortisol or [00:04:00] every-- you know, making proteins, making digestive enzymes, everything. They all have some sort of mineral required for it.

[00:04:09] Luke Storey: Um, there's a kind of a thought meme that's been going around for a few years, um, around the idea that Uh, industrialized farming over the past few decades has, uh, you know, basically destroyed the soil so that our, uh, our vegetables that we think are really healthy are devoid of minerals.

[00:04:30] Luke Storey: Um, do you think that that's true? Is there any evidence to support that? Uh, because, of course, there's a school of thought that many follow that just say, um, you don't, you never need to take supplements- Mm-hmm ... just eat whole foods, and you'll get everything you need. Yeah. And the argument against that is, like, well, if we had real food- Mm-hmm

[00:04:47] Luke Storey: that would be true, but we don't.

[00:04:49] Caroline Alan: Yeah. It's, it's actually sad. It's a sad fact. You cannot eat today enough volume of food to get all the micronutrients that you need. [00:05:00] You can certainly get enough carbs, fats, and proteins, so we are over-nourished, but we are, we have, we're low in nutrients. So, excuse me.

[00:05:10] Caroline Alan: We're overfed or undernourished- Yeah ... is actually the way we say it We've got plenty of calories. Yes, plenty of calories. Yeah. So, you know, people are really into the macros, proteins, fats, and carbs. You gotta watch those. But what runs those? It's all micronutrients. There's no turning of that, those, that nutrition that you take in from carbs, fats, and proteins without minerals.

[00:05:32] Caroline Alan: So in 1936, a man brought a paper to the US Congress, and he was explaining how we had a major problem with minerals in the soil, mineral deficiency in the soil. That was 1936, and what have we done about it? Nothing. So in, in 2002, I believe, there was a study. They, they, um, compared foods grown in the 1950s with foods grown [00:06:00] in the nine- in 1999, and they showed a significant decline in nutrient desi- density.

[00:06:05] Caroline Alan: So, you know, some people say to get the same nutritional value that you would get f- that your grandfather would've gotten from eating one apple, you'd have to eat six or more apples today.

[00:06:17] Luke Storey: Oh, wow.

[00:06:18] Caroline Alan: It's that, it's that intense. So I'm all about whole foods and just trying to get as much y- as you can from your foods, and I'm not...

[00:06:28] Caroline Alan: I, I don't espouse going and taking a whole bunch of pills to try and get your minerals. But what I am about is using nature's replenishment technology, which really is food. It's, it's, it's in the same realm as food. Rather than supplementing, it's replenishing. Yeah, yeah. I use that word, replenishment,

[00:06:48] Luke Storey: as opposed to- No, that's a good, that's a good distinction

[00:06:49] Caroline Alan: supplementing.

[00:06:50] Luke Storey: Yeah. Uh, a- another thing, um- I think many people don't realize, again, going back to the proponents of, "You don't need to take all these supplements. Just eat good food." [00:07:00] Um, even if the food, if you were able to find food now that had all of the micronutrients that your body needs, um, most of us, at least those of us raised on the standard American diet, you know, spent the first few decades of our life completely deficient.

[00:07:17] Luke Storey: We're, we weren't eating, most of us, um, you know, organ meats and raw eggs and oysters. You know, this kind of stuff, right? We're, like, growing up on Cheerios and Wonder Bread or whatever. And I mean, my parents were pretty good with health food, but still I wasn't always home. I, you know, if I, if I didn't wanna eat granola, um, I would get all my friends and, you know, crush a box of Captain Crunch or whatever, right?

[00:07:38] Luke Storey: Exactly. So it's like... And I wasn't breastfed. I mean, I guess most babies probably are. But if I trace back, you know, just whatever I was eating throughout my life, eating and drinking, not only was I taking in a lot of toxins that also deplete your, you know, your nutrients, but also just wasn't getting them.

[00:07:56] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. So I think, you know, I'm definitely an [00:08:00] advocate for targeted supplementation because it's just there's a lot of catch-up to do on the things that we, that we missed when we were still developing.

[00:08:09] Caroline Alan: Yeah. And, and what happens to a system that's chronically depleted is that there's a lot of long-term hits to the system, so it takes a while and, uh, to build that system back into robust and thriving health.

[00:08:26] Caroline Alan: The way-- One of the ways I like to describe it is, you know, if you, if your body has the full spectrum of mineral fuel that it needs, like all of the mineral content that it requires, it can generate about 1,200 watts of electricity in a day.

[00:08:41] Luke Storey: Are you serious?

[00:08:41] Caroline Alan: Yeah, like 1,200 watts. Wow. So it's, like, enough to plug in your blender and your toaster or whatever.

[00:08:46] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:08:47] Caroline Alan: Um-

[00:08:47] Luke Storey: That's

[00:08:47] Caroline Alan: crazy ... but if you don't have enough mineral fuel, and that means that all of the functions would be able to be completed 'cause there'd be enough ATP, so tiny units of energy ubiquitously [00:09:00] produced moment by moment in your body. But if you don't have enough fuel then what happens is maybe you're only generating 800, or when you're a kid eating Cap'n Crunch, you know, maybe you're only...

[00:09:11] Caroline Alan: And you have high need for minerals because your body's growing, you're high energy, you're high, you move around a lot, a high level of activity, and you're only generating maybe 700 watts of electricity. So what happens is the body has to pick and choose, and it chooses the most critical components. And the things that aren't critical, it's like, well, you know, it, it does the best it can.

[00:09:38] Caroline Alan: And when you're young and you've got a huge number, much greater number of mitochondria that are actively little campfires that are lighting s- lighting stuff on fire, you've got more capacity for energy generation. But as you get older, the hits to your system, you know, the, the trajectory goes up because you have [00:10:00] fewer active mitochondria.

[00:10:01] Caroline Alan: 'Cause now if you're hitting your 50s, your, you know, your 40s, your 50s, your, your mitochondria, there's just fewer that are active, and now you need more fuel to generate energy using your active mitochondria.

[00:10:16] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:10:16] Caroline Alan: Do you see?

[00:10:17] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:10:17] Caroline Alan: So it's- Makes sense ... it's c- it's compounding over time. Plus, as we know, if you, you know, if you stop watering this plant, it's not gonna s- go bad right away, but in a month it's gonna be like, "Eh."

[00:10:31] Caroline Alan: You know? And then in two months it's gonna be like- Yep ... "Ah," you know? And even then you might be able to add water and bring it back, but after four or five months it's gonna be like, "I'm done," you know?

[00:10:41] Luke Storey: Well, that also speaks to just part of the, um, human condition is our propensity to not really pay attention to something until w- you know, the, um, the, the engine light's on, right?

[00:10:56] Luke Storey: Yeah. And then we try to fix the engine light-

[00:10:58] Caroline Alan: Yes ...

[00:10:58] Luke Storey: instead of... Right? Instead of [00:11:00] opening the hood and going, "Hmm, why is the engine light on to begin with?" You know? Yeah. So I think there are so many of these downstream health challenges that we face, and it's difficult. Once you get over a certain threshold of, of those challenges, it's difficult to pinpoint what the problem is, 'cause you're, you're sort of too far gone to your point of, you know, what...

[00:11:19] Luke Storey: Is it a lack of energy? Is it a lack of minerals? What even is it at a certain point? That's why I always encourage people, like, when you're still young and you still feel good and healthy, start now, you know? Exactly. Like my grandma used to tell me. She lived till she was 99, and she would always be harping on me about sleep, you know.

[00:11:36] Luke Storey: "You gotta sleep, sleep, sleep." And I was like, "What?" 'Cause you don't feel like you need sleep when you're young, you know? I used to pull all-nighters all the time. I was fine. Right. You know, now I get less than six hours. Exactly. It's like I can barely talk, you know? So I think, you know, it... we sometimes learn these things the hard way.

[00:11:52] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:11:52] Luke Storey: Uh, okay, so, you know, we know minerals are, are really good for you. Um, there are, you know, sources, as I mentioned. Beef liver [00:12:00] is, you know, got tons of copper and zinc- Mm-hmm ... and all these other minerals. So, you know, there are some foods, some seafoods, et cetera, that's gonna have some iodine. Um, seaweed, you know, stuff like that.

[00:12:10] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. But it's like- The foods that are really nutrient dense are usually the, the least palatable to, to your normal person. So it's like trying to convince someone to... I used to make these cubes of raw liver and then freeze it, you know, and just take, take them down like vitamins. Like a

[00:12:26] Caroline Alan: pill.

[00:12:27] Luke Storey: I've been doing that on and off for years.

[00:12:29] Luke Storey: Um, probably not since I've got the beam minerals. I'm just like, "Okay, this tastes, uh, much better." Um, but anyway, so say someone realizes, okay, oh yeah, minerals are really important, they're gonna go to the health food store or CVS and just be like, "Oh, here's some iron," or whatever , you know? It's like- Exactly

[00:12:45] Luke Storey: where do most of the, um, you know, tablet and capsule mineral supplements come from?

[00:12:53] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:12:54] Luke Storey: And why wouldn't we just take a bunch of those?

[00:12:56] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Well, most of them are made from rocks, [00:13:00] shells, and bones. So when you're eating a meal and you get a piece of shell or a piece of rock or bone, what do you do? You spit it out, 'cause you know that your digestive tract doesn't digest it well.

[00:13:11] Caroline Alan: So when it's in a capsule, you think, oh, it's powdered, no problem. But the component size that that mineral has to get broken down to to actually be absorbed into your body is phenomenally small. It's a chemical component size, so 90%, 90% of what you take in through your mouth in terms like capsules and pills that are made from rocks, shells, and bones, goes straight through you and ends up in the toilet.

[00:13:40] Luke Storey: Ah.

[00:13:41] Caroline Alan: So, and, and you have to also recognize that when you're taking minerals in that format, meaning pills, dried powders, these kinds of things, and we won't talk about salts, they're different, so we'll talk about those differently, but, um, like electrolyte stick packs, that's a different thing. [00:14:00] But relative to things like calcium or chromium or zinc, these ones that we would take in as capsules, um- You, of course, can take zinc other ways.

[00:14:10] Caroline Alan: There's lots of different ways to take things, but still, if they're made from the rock shells and bones, you have the same problem, and they rely on the health of the lining of your gut as well. So if you're struggling with any, you know, irritable bowel or SIBO or, you know, different things like that, you're going to, um, you're gonna have problems with absorption anyway.

[00:14:34] Caroline Alan: And, and the thing about minerals, because remember, the mitochondria live inside your cells. So when you take minerals in through your mouth, they have to be digested completely down to their ionic chemical components, then they have to hit a receptor site in the lining of your gut, be absorbed into your bloodstream, and then they have to be assimilated into your cells, [00:15:00] delivered into your cells.

[00:15:01] Caroline Alan: So it's, it's quite an involved and complex process, and there's lots of impediments along the way. So that's, again, why something like plant-based humic and fulvic are so effective because your body recognizes them, it breaks them down extremely well 'cause they're, come from plants, not from rock shells and bones.

[00:15:23] Caroline Alan: Um-

[00:15:24] Luke Storey: So the, the plants have already done the job of, of breaking them down- And- ... into something we can assimilate.

[00:15:30] Caroline Alan: Exactly, and even more so, they represent pre-formulated molecules. So they're pre-formulated by nature in the proper ratios of minerals that you need. So if you're gonna take one capsule of calcium and another of some zinc, and you're gonna take some chromium, and you're gonna take some copper maybe, you're gonna take some calcium and et cetera, now what you've got is a huge concentration of these single minerals in your gut, and your [00:16:00] body goes, "Oh my gosh, I've got a concentration.

[00:16:03] Caroline Alan: This is way too much in this local area. I have to eliminate." And it either finds balancing minerals or water to get these out of your body. That's why you end up eliminating, like, 90%, because in your gut microbiome, it senses a concentration. And minerals are not meant to be in concentration. If you think in nature, if you just look at nature, where do we have concentrations of minerals?

[00:16:29] Caroline Alan: Places like Yellowstone, where there's volcanic things. Plants don't grow where there are concentrations- Oh, that's

[00:16:36] Luke Storey: interesting ...

[00:16:36] Caroline Alan: of minerals. So when- Right ... when you think about where cellular life thrives-

[00:16:41] Luke Storey: Or you think about the Dead Sea, right? Yes. It's just, like, very mineral and salt-rich water, and it's dead.

[00:16:48] Caroline Alan: Isn't that interesting? Yeah,

[00:16:50] Luke Storey: I never thought about

[00:16:50] Caroline Alan: that. So where you have concentrations of minerals, cellular life doesn't thrive because ecosystems like [00:17:00] small, balanced amounts of nutrients and minerals delivered continually over time, like the way minerals are delivered into soil as plants decompose.

[00:17:11] Luke Storey: Right. Right. Do

[00:17:12] Caroline Alan: you see?

[00:17:12] Luke Storey: Well, the, the- It's so

[00:17:13] Caroline Alan: interesting ...

[00:17:13] Luke Storey: the thing that's really interesting about minerals to me, too, minerals and metals, which are also minerals, um, is the, the relationship between them all, right? So to your point, uh, from what I understand, if you, say, mega dose zinc for a period of time, it's gonna deplete your copper, and vice versa, you know?

[00:17:33] Luke Storey: So it's like they seem to come in partnership. There's a synergy there that, I don't know, I feel like you'd have to really be a mineral expert, like a lot of these hair mineral analysis, uh, proponents, um, you know, they do this testing on your hair, and they go, "Oh, you know, you're taking too much of this, so you gotta take that and balance it out."

[00:17:51] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. And it's, it's a real art. I think some people do, you know, that art well. But if someone was just trying to wing it using [00:18:00] isolated minerals, I, I think you could end up causing yourself more problems than, than you're trying to solve, you know?

[00:18:07] Caroline Alan: Uh, absolutely. And, and the fact is the dynamic Like use or need for minerals in your, your, the need for minerals in your body is extremely dynamic, not only from day to day, but moment to moment and in certain areas of your body.

[00:18:22] Caroline Alan: If you go start running, your heart needs a lot of magnesium, potassium, okay? 'Cause it's, it's working really hard. Just, that's like an immediate short-term need. But does it need 1,000 milligrams of magnesium put into your gut to manage that? I'm not-- I don't think so. Because what that's doing is creating a concentration of magnesium, potassium, and now your body says, "I've got this concentration.

[00:18:48] Caroline Alan: I need to get rid of it." So with magnesium as example, it will pull calcium and phosphorus from other places in your body to balance that, as well as taking water to [00:19:00] eliminate. So now you're dehydrating yourself, and you're actually potentially, if you do it regularly over time, like some of the athletes that I've worked with in the aging quadrant or trainers of athletes, and they said we're, they're experiencing osteopenia and osteoporosis because they've used so much concentrated magnesium over a long period of time.

[00:19:22] Luke Storey: Oh, wow.

[00:19:23] Caroline Alan: You see? So-

[00:19:24] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[00:19:25] Caroline Alan: this is, these are the things that it's just a big misunderstanding, you know? Mm-hmm. 'Cause we think about our body. We're, you know, and science has taught us to think about body more as like inputs and outputs, more like a car. Go down the tank, fill up the gas tank, fill up the- Mm-hmm

[00:19:38] Caroline Alan: windshield washer, the oil, the, you know, whatever. Um, you know, so but your body doesn't work like that, not even close. It works more like a forest. You know, if in a forest, if you took a wheelbarrow of magnesium and threw it on the forest floor, the plants wouldn't thrive in that area. They'd be like, "Ah, too [00:20:00] much, too much."

[00:20:05] Luke Storey: All right, let me ask you something. Does your life suck a little more after one bad night of sleep? Well, mine does big time. If I don't sleep well, I tend to be a lot less fun. You can ask my wife for confirmation of that. I've got a shorter fuse, lower patience, and everything feels just a little harder than it should.

[00:20:22] Luke Storey: And I'm guessing I'm not the only one. But what most people don't realize is that a lot of that comes down to magnesium deficiency. Between stress and just getting older, your body burns through it faster than you can replace it, and magnesium is what your nervous system needs to shut things down at night.

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[00:21:44] Caroline Alan: Mm-hmm.

[00:21:45] Luke Storey: You know, I, I do a lot of, um, you know, Epsom salt baths and- Yeah ... and things like that. I put all kinds of crazy stuff in the bath. Um, and I, I, you know, I don't know the science behind it, but it just feels good, but I often wonder, am I actually absorbing any of that? Do you, [00:22:00] do you happen to know?

[00:22:01] Caroline Alan: Well, salts do absorb through the skin when you soak in them, so the Epsom salts definitely work.

[00:22:06] Caroline Alan: I don't know about the other stuff that you're putting in there, 'cause I don't know what it is. I mean, our electrolytes, I mean, I'm lucky 'cause I have a whole manufacturing plant You can bathe in it? So literally we, you know, at the end of a bottling run, we have f- some sort of, some amount, could be 10 gallons, of el- Oh, wow

[00:22:23] Caroline Alan: electrolytes. And so we bring it home in a five-gallon bucket, and I pour it into the bath.

[00:22:29] Luke Storey: Oh, that's amazing. World's most expensive bath.

[00:22:32] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[00:22:33] Luke Storey: There's this guy, um, Matt Blackburn, uh, who, who's got a, uh, a podcast, and he has a brand called, uh, Mitolife. And he- Yeah, I

[00:22:42] Caroline Alan: know

[00:22:42] Luke Storey: Mitolife ... yeah, and he, um, he sometimes will do, like, shilaj- 'cause he sells shilajit.

[00:22:46] Luke Storey: Yes. Same kind of thing, so I'm sure he gets it, you know, cheap, right? So he does these shilajit baths, you know? Like, that's such a cool idea, I mean, if you had the money. Um, but-

[00:22:56] Caroline Alan: I mean, the s- the beautiful thing about fulvic is the molecule is [00:23:00] so small. So, like, if you hold your hand in a fist, and that's the size of a cell, and you think of the head of a pin, that's the re- relative size difference.

[00:23:09] Caroline Alan: So fulvic is the head of a pin. It's extremely tiny.

[00:23:13] Luke Storey: Wow.

[00:23:13] Caroline Alan: And because your body recognizes fulvic, like, all the cells in your body recognize fulvic as a beneficial substance. When it hits up against the cell, the cell goes, "Oh, it's fulvic. Let it in." So y- that's why we have a spray called, called InstaLights, and you spray it on from the outside.

[00:23:33] Caroline Alan: It absorbs right in through the cells right out- outside of your body.

[00:23:37] Luke Storey: Well, you know, you, you ran into Allison on your way in. Yeah. She, uh, she is obsessed with the Boo Boo Lights and the Happy Lights. Like, the- Mm-hmm ... one's lavender and the other bergamot or something.

[00:23:47] Caroline Alan: Mm-hmm.

[00:23:47] Luke Storey: Yeah, she's always bugging, "Order more.

[00:23:49] Luke Storey: Wait, we're out, we're out." Like, she has them in her car, in the bedroom, travels with them.

[00:23:53] Caroline Alan: I'm gonna have to send her, like, 12 packs.

[00:23:54] Luke Storey: Yeah, seriously. Like, it's, it's a thing. It's an ongoing thing. And we also, um, we [00:24:00] use those sprays, the Beam sprays, on, on our dog, Cookie, when she gets hot spots and stuff like that.

[00:24:06] Luke Storey: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And also, I give her your, uh, the Boost minerals- Yeah ... you know, in a little dropper for her too- Great, great ... which is really good.

[00:24:12] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:24:13] Luke Storey: But, um, I think I, I might have asked you this in one of our prior shows, but why the hell... 'Cause I got the idea to spray it on Cookie when she gets allergic and itchy and stuff, um, 'cause I started spraying it on mosquito bites, and it makes it stop itching.

[00:24:28] Luke Storey: Did I ask you why? It's so weird. Oh, it's- Like-

[00:24:30] Caroline Alan: Isn't it amazing?

[00:24:31] Luke Storey: What's up with that? It's

[00:24:32] Caroline Alan: amazing. 'Cause it's

[00:24:33] Luke Storey: not like numbing cream or something. It's like, it seems like it wouldn't do anything, but it, it does really stop itching. I just-

[00:24:40] Caroline Alan: So the cool thing about- Like,

[00:24:41] Luke Storey: every time ...

[00:24:41] Caroline Alan: the cool thing about fulvic is it's incredibly good at intracellular detoxification.

[00:24:48] Caroline Alan: So if you think about mosquito bite, this toxin has been inserted into your cells in that local area, causing the itching, and the itching is actually your body's way of trying to [00:25:00] bring blood flow and remove that toxin. Now, you spray the electrolytes or the, excuse me, the InstaLights on it, which is fulvic, and it basically enters the cells, picks up all that toxin, and carries it out.

[00:25:14] Luke Storey: Oh, interesting.

[00:25:15] Caroline Alan: That's what it

[00:25:15] Luke Storey: does. Interesting. Yeah, 'cause it's not... I don't know. There are things like, I don't know, um, essential oils, you know, peppermint oil or something like that. Mm-hmm. And it'll work for a couple minutes, but then it doesn't, the itching comes back, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, why does this work?

[00:25:28] Luke Storey: That's really interesting. So it's like a, it's a micro level detox of that- Exactly ... particular local area.

[00:25:36] Caroline Alan: Exactly. That's interesting. This is why it works really well in hives, the hot spots with your dog. Yeah.

[00:25:41] Luke Storey: Yeah, anyone whose dog is, has hot spots, I'm telling you, man, like, get some of the Beam, uh, InstaLights, the spray, for those watching on video.

[00:25:49] Luke Storey: This stuff right here. Legit, legit works. We travel with it too for Cookie.

[00:25:52] Caroline Alan: Yeah. '

[00:25:53] Luke Storey: Cause if we travel somewhere where there's a lot of allergens, you know, she'll start freaking out.

[00:25:56] Caroline Alan: I never go anywhere without it.

[00:25:59] Luke Storey: Well, yeah. Literally. I [00:26:00] bet. I hope. You know, how many people own a company, and they're like, "Ah, I don't really use my stuff, you know?"

[00:26:05] Luke Storey: Yeah. "I just make money." Uh, tell me about, tell me about your book, The Mineral Reset.

[00:26:09] Caroline Alan: Oh, yeah.

[00:26:10] Luke Storey: This guy right here.

[00:26:11] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:26:11] Luke Storey: Uh, I, you know, have a r- renewed interest in, uh, you know, the process of people writing a book because now I know how challenging it is.

[00:26:20] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, I feel really lucky, um, partly 'cause I have, I have the support of my whole company in, in creating the book, and I had a structural editor help me put it together.

[00:26:32] Caroline Alan: But I'm really... I, I feel really proud because Hay House, um, published it, which is- Oh,

[00:26:38] Luke Storey: nice ... is

[00:26:38] Caroline Alan: quite a kudos thing in the world of health and wellness. And, um, you know, I wanted to write a book about minerals that did two things. One, made the information extremely accessible to anyone on the street, and particularly to the people who are suffering with multiple chronic symptoms because I've been [00:27:00] there, and I know there's a, there's this thing about when you're at your lowest point and you've kind of given up and all the doctors and practitioners are like, "Yeah, you're just getting old," or, "Do you want some antidepressants?"

[00:27:10] Caroline Alan: You know? Yeah. And, and you have some f- like, feeling in the back of your brain, like, "I think there might be something," you know? And this maybe, maybe there is just one thing that might be Creating or exacerbating all of these things. And, and I really wanted people to understand and be able to really create a picture in their mind of why minerals might be the issue for them.

[00:27:37] Caroline Alan: So, you know, in the-- it starts out, page three, you can take a little test, you know, a mineral deficiency quiz, and it's not gonna give you medical de-- advice, but it will give you a sense of where you are on the scale of, you know, just slightly deficient to critically deficient. Um, if you're having leg cramps every single night or-- and they're moving up now into your thighs, or you're getting [00:28:00] cramps in your you know, abdomen, it's getting closer to your heart, which is also a muscle.

[00:28:04] Caroline Alan: So this is your body telling you you're experiencing... All cramping in the body is mineral deficiency. So that's just, like, one small example. But it also helps you connect the dots around why you-- brain fog might be associated with mineral deficiency or your gut, the problems in your gut, why they might be associated with mineral deficiency or your skin problems or your hair falling out.

[00:28:28] Caroline Alan: And some-- a lot of people are kind of aware, like nails, you know, that's 'cause I didn't drink milk or something, you know?

[00:28:36] Luke Storey: I've heard that, uh, gray hair is a symptom of mineral deficiency, zinc or something. I forget what it was. Is there any validity to that?

[00:28:44] Caroline Alan: Well, this doesn't happen ubiquitously, but, uh, we've had a couple women contact us and say when they started our minerals, their hair started growing in dark again.

[00:28:55] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:28:55] Caroline Alan: I've seen-- It was actually my business partner's sister-in-law. She [00:29:00] started taking our minerals, and she's like, "Look at my hair." We went over, and we're like... It literally, you could just see this much of dark growing in.

[00:29:07] Luke Storey: Oh, wow. So- Like a reverse dye job.

[00:29:09] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Like a reverse dye job. Exactly.

[00:29:12] Luke Storey: That's amazing.

[00:29:13] Caroline Alan: Yeah. So, you know, it doesn't happen to everybody.

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[00:31:01] Caroline Alan: Yeah '

[00:31:02] Luke Storey: Cause what, you know, what we're circling around here, for those listening that didn't catch your prior episodes, is this ancient decomposed plant matter that you've, you know-

[00:31:12] Caroline Alan: Yeah

[00:31:12] Luke Storey: figured out how to make a great product out of. But it seems like the secret sauce has to do with those acids.

[00:31:19] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Well, really what they represent is every cell on Earth, every single cell requires minerals, and they require them actually in particular ratios. What's interesting is at a mitochondrial level, the same ratio of minerals that your body needs is the same ratio that that plant needs, or a cedar tree or a wolf or a mammal in the ocean.

[00:31:48] Caroline Alan: They all, at a mitochondrial level, we all derive- we all came from the same s- single-celled life, and we all need the same ratio of minerals. So what did [00:32:00] nature do? Nature created pre-formulated molecules for delivery of minerals into cells to provide that. 'Cause out in nature, this plant can't go, "Hey, we need some 500 milligrams of magnesium over here.

[00:32:14] Caroline Alan: We need 20 milligrams of po- potassium. We need some calcium." You know, it couldn't be like that, right? They just had to deliver the full spectrum constantly, and then those cellular systems had access to what they needed, when they needed, where they needed, how they needed it 24/7. And that's what humic and fulvic represent.

[00:32:36] Caroline Alan: They represent pre-formulated mineral molecules, but al- that also have additional capacities to support nutrient uptake in the body. And just so we're clear, in our products, we don't call them acids. Um, when you have humic acid, fulvic acid, that's humic and fulvic that have been extracted from their base [00:33:00] material using hydrochloric acid.

[00:33:02] Luke Storey: Oh, okay.

[00:33:03] Caroline Alan: Which is fine. It's not bad for you or anything, it just tastes bad.

[00:33:06] Luke Storey: Ah, okay.

[00:33:07] Caroline Alan: Yeah, so if you've had other mineral, humic and fulvic minerals that tasted bad, and they were called humic acids n- or fulvic acids, now you know why.

[00:33:15] Luke Storey: I've had those. Well, back in the day, uh, before I discovered you, I would take, um, you know, like, they call them ionic minerals- Yes

[00:33:26] Luke Storey: like liquid minerals- Exactly ... or even ones that were called, like, fulvic and humic acid in a little dropper bottle, and yeah- Mm-hmm ... it wasn't, wasn't very pleasant. I, which, you know, I can eat or drink anything if it's good for you. I don't really... I'm not someone who's sensitive to taste. But, um, it is nice.

[00:33:40] Luke Storey: Like, I just keep this above our refrigerator, and every day, I just come take a, probably, like, four times what you're supposed to . You know? I just take swigs of it out of the bottle. I don't even, like, put it in the little glass or anything. Uh, but it doesn't really have a taste. I mean, basically just tastes like water, you know.

[00:33:56] Luke Storey: Yeah. Which is interesting, 'cause the other, you know, the ones that [00:34:00] are that extracted fulvic and humic acid do have a very strong taste, as does shilajit, which is where you could also get some of these nutrients. But, um- Right ... you know, that's a taste that is- ... is not for the faint at heart. Yeah.

[00:34:12] Caroline Alan: Right. And a

[00:34:13] Luke Storey: lot of people take it as- I don't know anyone that's like, "I like the taste of shilajit."

[00:34:16] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Well, I have had actually talked to people who said, "I like the taste- Really? ... of it." But, you know- It's- ... what can you say?

[00:34:21] Luke Storey: It's, it's rough.

[00:34:22] Caroline Alan: Um, yeah. But, you know, you can take it as a capsule then. Um, the r- the... So the reason to s- to separate them the humic fr- from the fulvic is because they have different capacities.

[00:34:35] Caroline Alan: So if you just take shilajit, it has fulvic in it. It also has humic. So it's a humic and f- I mean, just so we're clear, the way it actually works is the humic molecule comes first. It incorporates fulvic, but we're able to extract fulvic out of the humic, so now we have two molecules that have really different molecular sizes and capacities to support...

[00:34:58] Caroline Alan: The humic is more [00:35:00] supportive of detoxification, like full system detoxification, removing things from your body altogether, and the fulvic is more about nutrient uptake and intracellular detoxification.

[00:35:12] Luke Storey: Got it. Okay. Yeah. Uh, that reminds me, I think I mentioned this to you on our last conversation, but m- maybe I heard it from you or somewhere that, um, the fulvic or humic, because of the way that it is able to enter the cell, uh, that it- you can use it to potentiate other nutrients, right?

[00:35:32] Caroline Alan: Absolutely.

[00:35:33] Luke Storey: So I, I did that with your, uh, with your MicroBoost when I took some mushrooms.

[00:35:39] Caroline Alan: Oh, great.

[00:35:40] Luke Storey: And it was, like, way stronger than it should have been. I was like, "Holy shit, sh- she..." Or whoever I learned that, I was like, "It's actually true. It's right." So be forewarned, people, uh, if you're, you know- Yeah ... if you're trying to get a little extra punch out of something.

[00:35:52] Luke Storey: But I'm assuming-

[00:35:53] Caroline Alan: It does actually do that, yeah. It

[00:35:54] Luke Storey: does, right?

[00:35:55] Caroline Alan: I've had that experience- 'Cause

[00:35:56] Luke Storey: it, it wasn't my imagination ...

[00:35:57] Caroline Alan: with

[00:35:57] Luke Storey: plant medicine,

[00:35:58] Caroline Alan: um, where other people, [00:36:00] uh, but because I'm so mineralized, the effect is much greater.

[00:36:04] Luke Storey: So could you take MicroBoost, uh, and, say, add it to your coffee, and the coffee would, the caffeine would hit harder?

[00:36:10] Caroline Alan: Well, let's actually... They both have, they both have nutrient uptake enhancement properties. So what the MicroBoost, which is the humic molecule, what that one does is it increases cell wall permeability. So if you, like, if you think of this room as a cell, and we have one door, and we'll call this a window, so much can go in and out.

[00:36:31] Caroline Alan: If we have four doors and four m- windows, more things can go in and out. So that is a way of enhancing the up- the, the potential of nutrient uptake into cells. Now, what the fulvic does is the fulvic binds with things. So it's, it's a very strong electrolyte molecule, and it's super tiny. So let's say you took the mushrooms, you know, it bind, bound with that DMT or whatever it was that was the psychoactive [00:37:00] agent, and it brought those into the cell much more.

[00:37:03] Caroline Alan: So you had permeable cells from the, from the MicroBoost. MicroBoost also has fulvic in it, so it actually has both. Um, and then the fulvic grabbed that and carried it into the cell and dropped it off. So now you have m- a g- much greater enhanced nutrient uptake-

[00:37:23] Luke Storey: A little shuttle system ... of

[00:37:23] Caroline Alan: the-- Yes, a little shuttle, shuttle system

[00:37:26] Luke Storey: for your

[00:37:26] Caroline Alan: mushrooms.

[00:37:26] Luke Storey: Uh, and then if, so, okay, so we were talking earlier about, uh, you know, plants today that we would eat, you know, edible plants being devoid of minerals, I guess, unless they're wild. You know, maybe they would still have- Mm-hmm ... some good soil to grow in. Uh- Yeah ... what's interesting to me is How did all of these minerals, uh, that we've been talking about get concentrated into that ancient plant matter?

[00:37:53] Luke Storey: Yeah Like, what, what was going, you know, wherever this is mined from, I'm assuming- Yeah ... dug up from somewhere.

[00:37:59] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:37:59] Luke Storey: Like, [00:38:00] how did those plants manage to accumulate all of these amazing nutrients when our plants today don't? And, and- Yeah ... what made them concentrated versus- Yeah ... you know, going back and getting a bowl of spinach from the 1700s, like, it's not gonna have as much minerals as this.

[00:38:15] Luke Storey: What's-

[00:38:15] Caroline Alan: Right ...

[00:38:16] Luke Storey: what, how did the concentration of it happen?

[00:38:18] Caroline Alan: So the, these come from s- substances, this, the substance our minerals come from is called humate. So imagine 65 million years ago, it's the dinosaur era, and a cataclysmic event happened. A meteor hit the Yucatan, and when it hit the Yucatan, it killed 75% of all life on Earth in a few hours.

[00:38:41] Caroline Alan: Now, at that time, there were rainforests as far north as northern Canada, so there was a huge swath of the Earth that had rainforests on it. And all those rainforests died, and they decomposed, and they went through this microbial decomposition process and delivered these [00:39:00] incredibly mineral-rich substances into the soil and the earth, and that's where shilajit comes from.

[00:39:06] Caroline Alan: Same era. Oh, okay. Same era. That's where peat comes from in the, in the British Isles. Same era. Oh, interesting. There's other, there's other, um, things in South America, in the African continent.

[00:39:17] Luke Storey: The weird, that's the weird thing about shilajit, is that it comes from such high altitude. Mm-hmm. You know? So I'm like, was that all underwater at some point?

[00:39:26] Luke Storey: How did it get up there? It's weird.

[00:39:28] Caroline Alan: Exactly. Was, it could've been an uplift, you know? Right, right. So there could've been uplifts or s- it's really, it's hard to imagine. Um, yeah, and it's oozing literally from rocks the way it's harvested, so really different than humate, which comes from about 10 to 12 feet below the earth.

[00:39:45] Caroline Alan: Ours comes from the Southwest United States out in this very rocky area. There's literally no plant life to speak of out there. Um, but deep below the soil, there's this huge strata of this, [00:40:00] oh my gosh, you would not believe how black and rich it is. So I kind of say it's like the energy of an entire rainforest decomposed into, like, maybe two feet.

[00:40:10] Luke Storey: Oh, wow. Right. So

[00:40:14] Caroline Alan: that's- So you see, that's how it got so concentrated, 'cause it's an entire rainforest-

[00:40:19] Luke Storey: Got it ... concentrated into that So it's, there, like in the, in the breakdown of that ancient plant matter, it's like a enzymatic process, right? Where-

[00:40:31] Caroline Alan: It's a microbial

[00:40:31] Luke Storey: A microbial. Okay. Yeah A microbial, so that those microbes are, microbes are basically pre-digesting mass quantities of plant matter and concentrating it down into this two-foot strata under the ground.

[00:40:46] Luke Storey: Yes.

[00:40:46] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[00:40:46] Luke Storey: That's so

[00:40:47] Caroline Alan: interesting. And this is, the, the cool thing is I think of it like this is actually the Earth's way of storing energy for future use by cellular life.

[00:40:57] Luke Storey: Oh, wow.

[00:40:58] Caroline Alan: You see, because [00:41:00] that mineral, minerals are the energy source. They are f- a foundational energy source for all cellular life.

[00:41:10] Caroline Alan: So there's like this sustainable loop that nature relies on. Plants grow, they die, they decompose. They, as they decompose, they go through this microbial process, and they deliver these fulvic and humic molecules back into the earth, which are now then available for the future plants and cellular life to grow, you see.

[00:41:32] Caroline Alan: But we, we've disconnected ourselves. So we grow food, we harvest it, we take it away, we eat it far away. We never bring the waste back, and now it's like having a bank account, and you just take, keep taking money out, and pretty soon you have very little money in there, and that's what our soils are like today.

[00:41:52] Luke Storey: I wonder how many of those, uh, what do you call it? Hum- hum- humus? What was the word for the-

[00:41:58] Caroline Alan: Humate

[00:41:59] Luke Storey: [00:42:00] Humate.

[00:42:00] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:42:00] Luke Storey: I wonder how many, um, you know, megatons of humate exist on the planet 10 feet underground that no one knows about.

[00:42:09] Caroline Alan: It's, it's unbelievable.

[00:42:10] Luke Storey: Oh, there's gotta be

[00:42:11] Caroline Alan: everywhere, right? Think about, literally think about it.

[00:42:13] Caroline Alan: When, I, I've thought about it a lot because-

[00:42:15] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[00:42:16] Caroline Alan: if you can imagine and even seen, um, you know, movies or, you know, watched that One of those documentaries about the way the Earth changed over years, and you see the whole Earth covered with rainforest, and they all died. They all died in one event That's so wild And there's been five of these events over the history of the Earth that they know of Are

[00:42:39] Luke Storey: you, uh, do, do you get into that kind of stuff?

[00:42:42] Luke Storey: The Graham Hancock and, you know, these cataclysmic events and ancient- No ... civilizations and stuff?

[00:42:48] Caroline Alan: I don't know. I, I'm more, I'm more interested in geology

[00:42:52] Luke Storey: Got it. Got

[00:42:52] Caroline Alan: it ... than, than anthropology. I mean, I'm interested in all of it, but- So you're interested

[00:42:55] Luke Storey: in, like, the net result of these

[00:42:57] Caroline Alan: events I, I think it's more like sometimes when I go out in the [00:43:00] desert and I walk, and I look at...

[00:43:02] Caroline Alan: I, I love to walk. We live in Grand Junction, Colorado, and- Yeah ... I love to go out in the red rock and walk around and go, "How in the world did that formation occur?" And then realize that the whole valley that we're in was an ocean-

[00:43:15] Luke Storey: Isn't that

[00:43:16] Caroline Alan: crazy? ... well under water, you know? It's crazy. 'Cause it's the only way those things form, is in water.

[00:43:21] Luke Storey: Right

[00:43:21] Caroline Alan: You know?

[00:43:21] Luke Storey: Yeah, that's where you live. My dad lived in Grand Junction for a long time. Um, and, uh, you know, right around the corner is Moab.

[00:43:29] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:43:29] Luke Storey: Right? So it's like you definitely get the sense... You know, a lot of those places in, in, um, in Western Colorado, Utah, you definitely get the sense that you're, like, in a dried up ocean bed.

[00:43:40] Luke Storey: Right. You know?

[00:43:41] Caroline Alan: Right.

[00:43:41] Luke Storey: If you're paying attention.

[00:43:42] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[00:43:43] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's really interesting. Um, so when it comes to extracting these, uh, this, this... I can never remember this word. Hume- hume-

[00:43:53] Caroline Alan: Humate

[00:43:53] Luke Storey: Humate. Humate. I can't get that through my skull. When it comes to extracting or, like, mining this humate-

[00:43:59] Caroline Alan: [00:44:00] Mm-hmm ...

[00:44:00] Luke Storey: how are you able to do it without adulterating the material with all kinds of stuff that you don't want?

[00:44:07] Luke Storey: Or do you have to... What are, like, the levels of refinement or filtration you have to go through to just get the goods out without a bunch of rocks and sand and stuff?

[00:44:15] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Well, actually it's, it's literally, it's such a pure vein, it's literally all humate.

[00:44:21] Luke Storey: Oh, really?

[00:44:22] Caroline Alan: It's not mixed in with rocks at all.

[00:44:23] Luke Storey: Oh, wow.

[00:44:24] Caroline Alan: It's all humate. It's like... It's incredible. It's such a rich area. The whole area is all black. Wow. And so have you ever been to a pla- like a black sand beach- Yeah, yeah ... in Hawaii or something- Sure, sure ... and it's all black? On

[00:44:37] Luke Storey: Big Island,

[00:44:38] Caroline Alan: yeah. Yeah, yeah. But now imagine, like, this being under the earth, and it's all this...

[00:44:44] Caroline Alan: It's, it's like, um, I don't know. Yeah, it's, it's not like that, so you, it's easy to get- without it getting mixed in with regular rocks.

[00:44:53] Luke Storey: How did it work out for you guys? Did you, like, buy a piece of land where this, this- Well,

[00:44:58] Caroline Alan: we have a, we have a [00:45:00] arrangement with a-

[00:45:00] Luke Storey: Oh, okay ...

[00:45:01] Caroline Alan: with, um, some people who have an arrangement with First Nations.

[00:45:05] Luke Storey: Oh, wow. Yeah,

[00:45:06] Caroline Alan: yeah.

[00:45:06] Luke Storey: So kind of a mineral rights sort of thing? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[00:45:09] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:45:10] Luke Storey: Um, is there any risk in that particular source running out- You know what? ... if you guys did

[00:45:17] Caroline Alan: really well and- People often ask that. People often ask that, and if you saw, like, so, you know, we ship our products all over the world, and, um, I don't know what we're up to now, but, um, and we use about, I think last year we used about two tons, and two tons is like- It's like this much.

[00:45:42] Caroline Alan: You know, it's, it's just doesn't even-

[00:45:44] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:45:45] Caroline Alan: Yeah, yeah. So it's that rich.

[00:45:47] Luke Storey: Wow.

[00:45:48] Caroline Alan: Yeah. It's that concentrated and that rich.

[00:45:51] Luke Storey: And what's the process of taking the raw material and turning it into a liquid that has no taste?

[00:45:59] Caroline Alan: [00:46:00] Yeah. Well, it's a proprietary process, so I'm not gonna tell you all the details. For sure, for sure.

[00:46:04] Caroline Alan: But it's, we only use water. It's non-chemical. Um, it's, um, it's a process of, um, extraction. I can't, I mean, I really can't tell you about it 'cause it's the one thing- That's fair ... that we really don't want other people to know.

[00:46:18] Luke Storey: Totally, I get it.

[00:46:18] Caroline Alan: Because, um, the really, the secret to our products is how good they taste, and we spend a lot of time and energy with every single batch making sure that it tastes good.

[00:46:30] Caroline Alan: And we're, it's because we're using an organic substances, substance. One time we got a batch, the whole thing tasted like almonds. We're like, "Why?" Maybe there was an almond tree right there that actually died and decomposed, and it left its terpenes-

[00:46:46] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm,

[00:46:46] Caroline Alan: mm-hmm ... in that particular part of the humate.

[00:46:49] Luke Storey: Amaretto flavored.

[00:46:50] Caroline Alan: You know? Yeah. Amare- It, it was like that. And we actually let it go. We actually, because although we knew that they were fine in terms of ingesting it, w- people would [00:47:00] wonder, like, why does it suddenly taste different? But when you're using an organic substance like that, you know, the trees over here are this type, and the trees over here are this type, and it could, it could taste different.

[00:47:10] Luke Storey: Right. So there's, it's n- there's not a standardized kind of, uh, raw material because obviously it just- Yeah ... nature made it however nature made it.

[00:47:20] Caroline Alan: No, we do test it for mineral composition, and we only use, like, we test it when it's, when we first purchase it to make sure that it meets a certain standard, and we only take the very highest, um- The thing-

[00:47:34] Caroline Alan: 'cause there's many grades of humate.

[00:47:36] Luke Storey: Oh, okay.

[00:47:37] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Okay. And there's also many different molecule sizes, and we are also looking for one that has a very small molecular size because the smaller the molecular size of the humate, the more potential of getting it into your bloodstream.

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[00:49:29] Luke Storey: And whether or not you buy it, I highly recommend you at least give yourself seven days for free

[00:49:36] Luke Storey: Got it. And the thing I've wondered about also, always have a lot of questions- ... naturally.

[00:49:42] Caroline Alan: That's great.

[00:49:43] Luke Storey: It's what I do for a living, is ask people questions. Uh, now what was it? It just eluded me for a minute. Oh, around, okay, we were talking about, oh, if you have a deficiency in this particular mineral or that mineral, you know, common sense would be like, "Oh, I'm short in magnesium.

[00:49:58] Luke Storey: I need to take a bunch of magnesium." And you were [00:50:00] talking about how this particular, um, natural synthesis of all these minerals is perfectly balanced. And some, you know, and I, I take the, the beam minerals just about every day. Sometimes I forget because the bottle's tall, so I have to put it above the refrigerator.

[00:50:15] Luke Storey: Um- But I would say most days I take it, right? Yeah. Um, and I'm finding myself going, "Am I really getting enough of each mineral?" Like, so I'm still b- you know, I'm cheating a little bit. I'm still boosting some magnesium and some- Mm-hmm ... uh, you know, a little copper and zinc- Mm-hmm ... here and there, iodine. Mm-hmm.

[00:50:32] Luke Storey: Just because, not that I don't trust you or trust the product- Yeah ... I'm just like, "What if I need more?"

[00:50:37] Caroline Alan: Yeah. I get it. I get it. And that's, it's, it's a natural thing, but, you know, what you should do is get an Oliga Scan for yourself, so you could just check.

[00:50:46] Luke Storey: Oh, have you done that, the Oliga Scan?

[00:50:48] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:50:49] Luke Storey: Oh, yeah?

[00:50:49] Caroline Alan: Yeah. You know you can get the, you could actual- I mean, they're not that expensive. The tests are fairly expensive, but, you know, you could just get one.

[00:50:57] Luke Storey: Expla- explain to people what that is. Oh, so- I, I've heard of it, but I've [00:51:00] never done one.

[00:51:00] Caroline Alan: Yeah. So Oliga Scan is a test y- that uses spectrophotometry. It's non-invasive.

[00:51:07] Caroline Alan: The device is actually, I think it's like 300 bucks on, you know, on, uh, Amazon, but you have to purchase the software that goes with it through the company, Oliga Scan. Oh, okay,

[00:51:17] Luke Storey: okay.

[00:51:17] Caroline Alan: Okay? And what it, the device uses spectrophotometry, which is a very stable science from, that's used in material sciences, and it shines a light into four places on your palm, and it takes the data through an algorithmic process, and it delivers back to you your intracellular, like, what's, what your cells have up- uptaked, up- what has gotten uptaked into your cells.

[00:51:42] Caroline Alan: I can't say it right. Uptaken?

[00:51:44] Luke Storey: Uptook?

[00:51:45] Caroline Alan: How do you, how do you say it?

[00:51:48] Luke Storey: Gobbled up by your cells?

[00:51:50] Caroline Alan: What has gotten into your cells and stored. Um, so that's, it will give you all your electrolyte levels, beneficial minerals, micronutrients, [00:52:00] and your heavy metals, as well as your vitamin levels. So, you know, if you really, like, wanna know, you could do that.

[00:52:07] Caroline Alan: Some, some athletes actually do that, and they just do it regularly 'cause they're really working for high performance. So but part of the problem with it is it might return something back and it says you're low in magnesium. That's a good example So you're thinking, "Oh, I should take more magnesium." But actually, you have to ask yourself, first of all, if you have to look at other things, like are you high in certain heavy metal that might be taking up the receptor site for that magnesium?

[00:52:34] Caroline Alan: That's why the intracellular magnesium is low, because you're not actually absorbing or assimilating it because the receptors are being taken up by this heavy metal, which says, "Oh, you need to do some more things to remove the heavy, heavy metal." Um, it also could be potentially parasites. You might have parasites that are actually metabolizing the magnesium before it's able to be absorbed into your system.

[00:52:59] Caroline Alan: So there's [00:53:00] all sorts of balancing things. You could have, you know, you could have, um, high calcium. So there's a, there's a ratio between calcium and magnesium. Calcium and magnesium are, um, they're kind of cousins, chemical cousins, and the body actually can get confused sometimes about if you have high calcium, it thinks it's magnesium and it starts dumping, or vice, vice, you have high magnesium, thinks it's calcium and it tells your parathyroid to stop, um, releasing calcium.

[00:53:31] Caroline Alan: So it does... Th- there's lots of weird balance things. You know, you have to... So this is why I say minerals are very powerful substances, and we have been taught to think of them just like, you know, throw a pill in, throw a pill in. But actually, it's, it's just not how ecosystems work.

[00:53:49] Luke Storey: Um, with the Oligo Scan- Yeah

[00:53:52] Luke Storey: something, you know, I've not done it myself, as I said, but, um, something that I found interesting about it when I, when I first heard of it was [00:54:00] that it's actually showing what is present in your tissues-

[00:54:04] Caroline Alan: Exactly ...

[00:54:05] Luke Storey: versus if you do a hair test or like a challenge urine test, some useful information, but it's showing what you're excreting, right?

[00:54:13] Luke Storey: Exactly. Not what, not what's in you. So it's, there's a lot more cat and mouse involved, I think, to decode that, which is something, you know, um, a layperson would have a difficult time doing unless- Exactly ... you like really studied, um-

[00:54:25] Caroline Alan: And then some people do blood tests to tell you- Yeah ... and that's just what you ate in the last 72 hours or so.

[00:54:29] Luke Storey: Right.

[00:54:30] Caroline Alan: Or even micronut- uh, microbiome, like, you know, feces tests, same thing. It's just what's ambient

[00:54:36] Luke Storey: in your system. You're getting kind of a snapshot- Mm-hmm, yeah ... of what's moving around-

[00:54:41] Caroline Alan: Mm-hmm ...

[00:54:41] Luke Storey: versus the Oligo Scan showing what's actually in the tissue- Right ... which is, of course, what matters, like what do you have circulating that's doing its job or not?

[00:54:50] Caroline Alan: Exactly. Hair tissue's probably the n- mineral analysis, HTMA, is probably the next best.

[00:54:55] Luke Storey: Okay.

[00:54:56] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[00:54:56] Luke Storey: Uh, have you done any experiments on yourself or know of [00:55:00] any experiments that, um, your customers have done with the Oligo Scan, a before and after where they, you know, they're, they're in bad shape, and they get on the MicroBoost for three months and retest and they're golden.

[00:55:11] Luke Storey: Tell me about any- anything you've seen. I love- Well, we've had I love, you know, studies are great, but also anecdotal evidence is useful too. Yeah.

[00:55:18] Caroline Alan: We've had lots of anecdotal, so because we- we're not going to shows right now, but we've gone to a lot of shows over many years, so people will come back every year, and they'll get their test, and the first time they c- test, their minerals are all off, and then they start on B minerals.

[00:55:32] Caroline Alan: They come back the next year, and their minerals are really good.

[00:55:35] Luke Storey: Oh,

[00:55:35] Caroline Alan: cool. So I mean, that's happened time and time and time again with people who they c- they come back, they're like, "Oh, I really wanna know," and they, they look, and they're like, "Wow, that is so cool." So.

[00:55:45] Luke Storey: Um, let's talk about the relationship between heavy metals and minerals.

[00:55:49] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:55:49] Caroline Alan: You

[00:55:50] Luke Storey: know, as you mentioned, the receptor sites, so oftentimes, say, someone is getting enough minerals, if they're loaded with heavy metals, which I would argue pretty much everyone that lives in an [00:56:00] industrialized country- Mm-hmm ... is going to be, you know, have some level of metals in them. Mm-hmm. Um, and metal detoxing is a whole crazy science within itself, and there's a lot of different, differing opinions about how to do it.

[00:56:13] Luke Storey: I'm not really sure. I take a lot of saunas, and that's kind of, you know, my main- Great idea ... method of hopefully getting them out, and also for aluminum, I drink a lot of silica. Mm-hmm. Um, but have you seen any evidence to support, um- You know, this, this particular formula of minerals helping to displace the metals?

[00:56:36] Luke Storey: Does it go both ways- Yeah ... is what I'm trying to ask, right?

[00:56:38] Caroline Alan: Yes, it does. So it's... And that's one of the coolest things about the humic molecule. The fulvic also does it intracellularly. The humic molecule will actually take heavy metals out of your body, and the fulvic will take them out of your cells. So heavy metals are often stored in your fat tissues because your body doesn't know what to do with them, and that's, that, it will work to actually [00:57:00] remove them from the cells.

[00:57:02] Caroline Alan: The fulvic will drop it in the bloodstream. The humic grabs it and carries it out. And the way it works is this: it's really interesting 'cause, you know, recently, earlier this year, we had somebody who posted about, um, MicroBoost having heavy metals in it, and it's, you know, it, it has some lead and it has some, like some- something else that she mentioned.

[00:57:25] Caroline Alan: Um, and the problem is that there's a lot of misunderstanding about heavy metals. I have actually a whole section in the book devoted to helping people understand heavy metals, 'cause heavy metals exist everywhere, and there are multiple kinds of heavy metals. There's organic heavy metals. There's inorganic heavy metals.

[00:57:43] Caroline Alan: In some cases, the organic form is very toxic, and in some cases, the inorganic form is very toxic, and the organic... And organic, inorganic, um, the difference is the organic molecule is bound with a carbon molecule, basically. That's, [00:58:00] that's the foundational difference. But if you pick up, you know, a s- spoonful of dirt, let's say you dig down 10 feet so you're not getting like acid rain, and, and you take some soil, it's gonna have every mineral on Earth on it probably, and it, that's gonna include heavy metals.

[00:58:16] Caroline Alan: Zinc is a heavy metal, so zinc is very good for you in small amounts, but it can become toxic at high amounts. In fact, that happened during the pandemic. People took a lot of zinc because they thought it would up their immune system, and they became zinc toxic,

[00:58:31] Luke Storey: so. Oh, right.

[00:58:32] Caroline Alan: Yeah, so-

[00:58:32] Luke Storey: And probably copper deficient at the

[00:58:34] Caroline Alan: same time.

[00:58:34] Caroline Alan: Yeah, exact- Yeah ... so zinc and copper have, uh, this divalent, um, relationship. So what we want to, what, um, I want people to understand about heavy metals is, first of all, where they are a problem when we, is when they are free roaming in your body The heavy metals that are part of the humic molecule, they're completely bound in the molecule, and I've talked to the foremost scientists about this to [00:59:00] help me understand how this works.

[00:59:03] Caroline Alan: So they have, they, what they say is they have no valence. So what it means is they're completely chemically bound in the molecule, and what they actually do is act like magnets. They move through your system, and they act like magnets for other heavy metals. It's the craziest thing.

[00:59:23] Luke Storey: This is-

[00:59:23] Caroline Alan: So

[00:59:24] Luke Storey: this- ... so cool.

[00:59:25] Caroline Alan: And the humic- Yeah ... molecule has, it's a polyelectrolyte molecule. It has some areas that are positively charged and some areas that are negatively charged, which is really great because not all minerals have posi- they, they can change, right? So it, it actually acts like a magnet moving through, through your system, and it's so effective at, um, mo- removing lead.

[00:59:49] Caroline Alan: There are studies that have been done on using humic substances for lead poisoning, for r- lowering, remediating toxicity of lead. So [01:00:00] in humans and in, um, like from mining and from, um, uh, you know, all sorts of industrial accidents and things like that. It was used in Chernobyl actually to remove heavy metals from the soil.

[01:00:14] Luke Storey: Oh, really?

[01:00:15] Caroline Alan: Yeah, yeah.

[01:00:16] Luke Storey: Well, that, that particular phenomenon is really interesting, um, to me because it's also The way it works with aluminum and zeolite Mm-hmm.

[01:00:28] Caroline Alan: Right ...

[01:00:28] Luke Storey: so the people, like online trolls, like, I use this, uh, zeolite called, um, what's it called? Zeocharge, and I interviewed the, the founder, and, you know, whenever I'm taking something, I really like to interview the founder, 'cause I can kind of grill them to vet- Yeah, yeah

[01:00:41] Luke Storey: you know, to vet their product. He was an easy one to grill, 'cause I was like, "All right, people are bitching about there's aluminum in zeolite," and- Right ... he explained it in the same way- It's a safe thing ... that the, the aluminum is bound, and so I didn't know about the magnetism kind of part of it, but it, it, it's known that zeolite will [01:01:00] detox your aluminum, yet it has aluminum in it.

[01:01:02] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[01:01:03] Luke Storey: Which is this weird paradox, but that, that explains why.

[01:01:07] Caroline Alan: Exactly.

[01:01:07] Luke Storey: You can't, you're not gonna absorb the aluminum in the zeolite, like you're not going to absorb the lead in this.

[01:01:13] Caroline Alan: And there's this, there's this amazing thing about the way the humic molecule works. So it has, so it's polyelectrolyte, so it has these multiple areas that are positively or negatively charged, but it also has this capacity that in certain environments where there's toxicity, it's, the molecule actually spreads out, so it has more surface area available to become those magnetic, um, parts where things can cling to it.

[01:01:43] Caroline Alan: And as the area gets less and less toxic, it, it, at that point, it's called hydrophilic, which means it likes water, and it stays suspended in the water, the fluids in your body. As it gathers more and more toxic [01:02:00] elements, it curls up in a spiral shape into a ball, and it becomes hydrophobic at that point, which means that it pr- precipitates.

[01:02:12] Caroline Alan: It actually falls out of suspension, and then it leaves your body. So it's both hydrophilic, meaning it will, will suspend in water in certain pHs, and it's hydrophobic at other pHs and at other conditions where it will now take those things and remove them from the system. And, and I've always wondered, because I've read about how it has this capacity to remove elements from the, from a cellular system, but I didn't understand exactly how it worked.

[01:02:42] Caroline Alan: And when I really saw and, and read deeply into that, I was like, "Wow."

[01:02:47] Luke Storey: That's crazy.

[01:02:47] Caroline Alan: So this is why we call humic an effector, because it's not just like throwing a rock into a pond and, you know, having this, you know, like piece of metal or whatever in your sy- in your liquid [01:03:00] system. No, it's a very, it's like actually responding to the environment and doing things to affect the environment.

[01:03:07] Luke Storey: That's insane.

[01:03:08] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[01:03:09] Luke Storey: It's dynamic.

[01:03:10] Caroline Alan: It's dynamic.

[01:03:11] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:03:11] Caroline Alan: And it makes sense.

[01:03:12] Luke Storey: It's things like this that reinforce my belief in God. It's like there's no way all this is an accident, you know, just a fluke or just some, you know, stars collided and everything just kind of worked out and settled here on planet Earth.

[01:03:28] Luke Storey: You know, like, that's just, that's a crazy level of sophistication.

[01:03:34] Caroline Alan: Isn't it?

[01:03:35] Luke Storey: Sophisticated design.

[01:03:36] Caroline Alan: It really

[01:03:37] Luke Storey: is. Like, there's so much intentionality and intelligence in just that. You just take that one thing, that's crazy. Well- Like, how does it know to do that? Who programmed it to do that? Well, think about it.

[01:03:47] Luke Storey: Someone or something programmed it to do that.

[01:03:49] Caroline Alan: But how many years have we been doing programming? I don't know, 60, 70, maybe 100 years. Not even 100, right? 90 years. So [01:04:00] I mean, of any type as humans, and millennia, that's been designed over millennia, millions and millions and millions of years. So that's what's possible.

[01:04:14] Luke Storey: That's insane. I just, I think the zeolite and the, um, beam minerals is a, sounds like a really good combo.

[01:04:23] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[01:04:23] Luke Storey: Just thinking about that- Yeah ... when it comes to the detoxing part of the zeolite and the detoxing part of the boost minerals, but also the replenishing. That sounds like a really good... I mean, I'm on both of them, so it must be working.

[01:04:36] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[01:04:36] Luke Storey: But that sounds like a really good combo.

[01:04:39] Caroline Alan: Yeah. For sure.

[01:04:40] Luke Storey: And also more- I think if

[01:04:41] Caroline Alan: you're having- ...

[01:04:42] Luke Storey: more affordable than a lot of the really fancy, uh, supplements, you know?

[01:04:46] Caroline Alan: Well, and also more gentle, you know? So, you know, let's say you find out you have some, or you are afraid that you have some heavy metal toxicity, maybe you had mercury fillings or, you know, things like that.

[01:04:58] Caroline Alan: Or you

[01:04:58] Luke Storey: just walk outside and breathe [01:05:00] aluminum.

[01:05:01] Caroline Alan: You live in New York City or something, you know? Yeah. Where you're constantly breathing all that. So, um, you know, using a s- a solution like that, it, these are ecosystem tools, you know? You do an intense, acute chelation therapy, it's really hard on your body, but you use those kinds of tools on a daily basis, now your body actually learns how to constantly, you know, that's why I call it Mother Nature's janitor.

[01:05:31] Caroline Alan: It's like it just works in the background, you know, taking the garbage out, and that's a much more effective way than letting it build up and then trying to do a huge thing to take it all out, and then it starts building up again.

[01:05:43] Luke Storey: Right. Right.

[01:05:44] Caroline Alan: So you do the next time.

[01:05:45] Luke Storey: Right. Um, if someone was going to combine sauna therapy with beam minerals, what, when, what would be, between the Electrol- Electrolyze it's called?

[01:05:56] Caroline Alan: Yeah, Electrolyze.

[01:05:57] Luke Storey: Electrolyze or the MicroBoost, what would be the [01:06:00] timing before- Yeah ... during, and after of either one of those?

[01:06:03] Caroline Alan: Yeah, we actually recommend you take the MicroBoost first, 'cause your body's gonna go into all these detox processes while you're in the red light, and then afterwards you're gonna take the Electrolyze for replenishment.

[01:06:14] Luke Storey: Okay. Yeah. That makes

[01:06:15] Caroline Alan: sense. And you have your big glass of water and you're gonna-

[01:06:17] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah ... put your

[01:06:18] Caroline Alan: Electrolyze

[01:06:18] Luke Storey: in. I'm always trying to maximize the sauna. Yeah. You know, today I did one.

[01:06:22] Caroline Alan: That's a

[01:06:22] Luke Storey: great way. I'll drink, uh, sometimes I'll drink some zeolite before I get in there, but, you know, that's kind of, I don't know if there's a lot of, um, I don't know if there's a scientific validation for that, but it seems, you know, as you mentioned, your, your toxins are stored in fat, right?

[01:06:38] Luke Storey: And so it seems like when you get in a really hot sauna, everything's kind of getting mobilized, so my pet theory was, you know, if I can, if any of it's getting deposited in the gut and I take the zeolite, it's gonna, you know, it's gonna carry it out.

[01:06:50] Caroline Alan: Yeah. That's true. And, and the humic is even better, I think, from my-

[01:06:55] Luke Storey: Yeah?

[01:06:55] Luke Storey: Okay,

[01:06:56] Caroline Alan: cool ... my personal opinion. Just because of that dynamic [01:07:00] engagement that it has with the to- the environment-

[01:07:03] Luke Storey: Right ...

[01:07:03] Caroline Alan: that it's in.

[01:07:04] Luke Storey: It has that ability to shape-shift.

[01:07:06] Caroline Alan: Yes. Right.

[01:07:07] Luke Storey: From phobic to philic.

[01:07:09] Caroline Alan: Yes.

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[01:08:47] Luke Storey: You can also find those links and codes in the show description Um, what is the difference between the Electrolyze and the Micro Boost? Yeah. I always take the Micro Boost more- Mm-hmm ... 'cause it just, [01:09:00] it's darker. So I'm like, ah, it probably has more stuff in it. So- Like, I always have a supply of the Electrolyze, but I- Yeah

[01:09:06] Luke Storey: run out of the Micro Boost a lot.

[01:09:07] It's

[01:09:08] Caroline Alan: so funny, 'cause some people are just the opposite. They t- take a ton of Electrolyze and hardly any Boost. So, um, so Micro Boost is the humic product, so it's the large molecule, the one that's Mother Nature's janitor. It has some hu- uh, some fulvic in it also. The reason it has fulvic in there is because fulvic has this strange capacity to change its polarity.

[01:09:29] Caroline Alan: It can change from negative to positive, and it actually does, i- in doing that, it keeps a certain pH range in a liquid substance. And because humic stays hydrophilic, meaning it will stay suspended in water within a certain pH range, we put f- a certain amount of fulvic in there 'cause the fulvic will keep that.

[01:09:50] Caroline Alan: So you never have to shake the bottle. It's gonna always be suspended. And ionic is what we call it. That word ionic- Mm-hmm ... meaning ready for absorption, [01:10:00] doesn't need to be broken down. Nothing needs to happen. It's ready to be absorbed immediately. The Electrolyze is fulvic only.

[01:10:08] Luke Storey: Oh, okay. It's only fulvic.

[01:10:10] Luke Storey: So I've been robbing myself by not being on both every day. Little bit. You know,

[01:10:12] Caroline Alan: the main reason is the fulvic, the thing, the fulvic is, you know- You know, try taking fulvic with your mushrooms. You've already got- Don't get

[01:10:22] Luke Storey: any ideas

[01:10:23] Caroline Alan: You've already got humic, um, but fulvic is... So I always think about fulvic like, you know, you eat a big meal, and now you wanna get the benefit of all those nutrients you put in your gut.

[01:10:34] Caroline Alan: Well, if you have fulvic in there also, you're gonna really enhance, absorb, up- uptake-

[01:10:40] Luke Storey: Ah, okay ...

[01:10:41] Caroline Alan: nutrient uptake. Yeah. '

[01:10:42] Luke Storey: Cause that's the one that shuttles it into the cell. Exactly.

[01:10:45] Caroline Alan: Shuttles, it grabs those nutrients, carries them in. Yeah.

[01:10:49] Luke Storey: Got it. Okay. Yeah. What's, uh... Tell me about this, I was looking at the notes here, um, this live mineral reset program, Bookinar- Yeah

[01:10:58] Luke Storey: which I'm gonna put in the show [01:11:00] notes for everyone. The show notes, by the way, today are lukestrott.com/minerals3, the number three, and there you'll find mineralresetbook.com Bookinar. But what is that? I've never heard of a Bookinar.

[01:11:12] Caroline Alan: Well, we just, at the end of my book is a mineral reset program that you could take yourself through.

[01:11:17] Caroline Alan: I wanted to walk people through it because it's pretty involved, and I thought it would be nice to have an opportunity for people to interact, so we're taking about 500 people through it right now. Um- Damn ... and, I know. I was like, "I thought maybe 50 people at the most." That's amazing. So. Congratulations. I know.

[01:11:34] Caroline Alan: Thank you. So we've got a lot of people doing it. It seems like people are really enjoying it. We have a lot of Q&A, so people get to ask questions, really engage, and, and there's all range, people who've already been taking Beam for a while, and people who are just now getting the book and, and, and, um, getting engaged.

[01:11:52] Caroline Alan: So we're finishing up one round right now, but you can still get in for the, th- we're gonna be continually doing them.

[01:11:59] Luke Storey: [01:12:00] Cool, cool. Yeah. So it's, uh, it's kind of a educational and community-building thing with other Beam mineral geeks.

[01:12:08] Caroline Alan: And it's r- and it's also an opportunity to, um, you know, I think there's a lot of Um, overwhelm when it comes to one more thing.

[01:12:17] Caroline Alan: You know?

[01:12:18] Luke Storey: Oh, tell me

[01:12:18] Caroline Alan: about it And-

[01:12:19] Luke Storey: I hear this from people all the time ...

[01:12:20] Caroline Alan: right? It's like, "Oh, one more thing? Like I don't even want to..." You know? So it's nice to have a community and somebody who can make it easy for you. You know? So it's like one thing to have the book. The book is like a map. It's another thing to have a guide who goes, "Okay, see this map?

[01:12:37] Caroline Alan: We're gonna go here first. We're gonna go there, and then we're gonna..." You know. So it's, it's nice to be walked through it.

[01:12:42] Luke Storey: Awesome. Yeah. Well, to your point earlier, too, for people that are in the midst of health challenges, especially chronic issues- Mm-hmm ... um, the overwhelm's even worse, right? Yes. And also the financial overwhelm.

[01:12:55] Luke Storey: You know, you go to a functional medicine doctor, which is in and of itself expensive, 'cause insurance never [01:13:00] covers it.

[01:13:00] Caroline Alan: Mm-hmm.

[01:13:01] Luke Storey: They do the testing. That's expensive. Then they're like, "Here's 50 supplements you need to take." It's 10 grand, you know? Yes. And it's like, if someone has not been able to work, um- Mm-hmm

[01:13:10] Luke Storey: you know, or they're just not operating at- Exactly ... their full capacity, they're not only, you know, broke m- many times, but also just the, don't have the mental capacity- Mm-hmm ... to sift through all of the minutiae of the information. There's just so many frigging biohacking devices and supplements. I mean, it's...

[01:13:28] Luke Storey: I like it, so it doesn't overwhelm me, 'cause it's like, just I'm into it, you know?

[01:13:32] Caroline Alan: Right.

[01:13:33] Luke Storey: But there's a lot of people who just don't feel well. They don't wanna be into all this stuff. They just want you to tell them, like, what works without completely inundating them, um, with so much information that they just get paralyzed and can't do anything, you know?

[01:13:46] Caroline Alan: Yeah. So I think that's a good idea. And I've

[01:13:47] Luke Storey: been there,

[01:13:48] Caroline Alan: and that's, that's really the main reason I wrote that book, because I've been there. I've been that person who was completely trashed with flatlined adrenals, inflammation in my gut, and terrible periodontal disease, and [01:14:00] recurring sinus infections, and I never slept at night.

[01:14:02] Caroline Alan: I mean, I woke up four or five times a night. I had terrible brain fog. I mean, you name it, and I was trashed. And if somebody had come to me and go, you know, "Do this, do that," I was like, I was so done with all... I, I already, I took a handful of pills, and I was like, "Done. I, I can't do it anymore." So there's this sense of overwhelm, and what I...

[01:14:22] Caroline Alan: The, the thing that I wanted to bring to people is what if you just stop for a minute? And just start at the beginning. The beginning is minerals. The foundation is minerals. Just start there, and in fact, that's why we have a practitioner program at Biominerals because we had practitioners who came to us, and they were like, "We need you to have a practitioner program."

[01:14:45] Caroline Alan: And we're like, "Well, okay." You know? And they're like, "No, you don't understand. Our clients come to us not with one or two chronic symptoms now, but with five or six," and we've gotten to the point where it's like the first thing we want them [01:15:00] to do is just, just start with the minerals. I'll see you in a month, and then we'll talk.

[01:15:05] Caroline Alan: You know? Like, just start at the foundation, and then the person starts going, "Oh, I feel a little better. I'm not having that crash in the middle of the afternoon. You know, I have less cravings. Wow, the brain fog is like the sh- the clouds are clearing. Like, you're really a good practitioner. I feel great."

[01:15:23] Caroline Alan: You know, you see? And so it's, it's like this foundational level that can really uplevel everything, and then all the other protocols that you end up doing are gonna have much more effect.

[01:15:36] Luke Storey: I love that approach. Mm-hmm. Makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah. I think the minerals You know, there's so many, uh, kind of, oh, what's the word, exotic supplements- Mm-hmm

[01:15:47] Luke Storey: and stuff, right? I mean, I'm trying new stuff all the time, methylene blue, like, whatever, there's a lot of kind of, I don't know, stuff that's very intriguing and exotic and kind of grabs your attention. Um, it's- it's [01:16:00] sort of that, um, you know, the magic pill sort of syndrome. Mm-hmm. You learn about something new and it-

[01:16:05] Luke Storey: reports all these benefits and stuff, but you can end up spending a lot of money, you know- Right ... on a lot of the really fancy stuff that is ultimately upstream-

[01:16:15] Caroline Alan: Right ...

[01:16:15] Luke Storey: from what y- from what you really need. Yeah. So I- I really like the approach of starting with minerals. I- I just think minerals have kind of gotten a bad rap 'cause they're not really sexy, you know.

[01:16:24] Luke Storey: And it's just like- Yeah, they're very

[01:16:25] Caroline Alan: humble, little humble little

[01:16:26] Luke Storey: things. Yeah. You know, you're like, "Oh, take some calcium or magnesium." Yeah, whatever. "What's that gonna do," you know? "Give me the mitochondria booster," or whatever, you know. Meanwhile, your mitochondria won't function without the right minerals in- in the right balance and quantity, you know, so I think that's- Which is why we-

[01:16:41] Caroline Alan: It's a good approach

[01:16:41] Caroline Alan: decide

[01:16:41] Luke Storey: we wanna

[01:16:41] Caroline Alan: make these guys famous. We're gonna make humic and fulvic famous.

[01:16:45] Luke Storey: Well, I'm- I'm gonna do everything I can to help you. Thank you. I'm- I'm a believer, I'm a convert. Um, you know, I've been using shilajit for- for many years, but it's, you know, it's- it's difficult to work with. It's sticky- Yeah

[01:16:57] Luke Storey: and weird and, you know, it's kind of [01:17:00] hard to- It's

[01:17:00] Caroline Alan: not for everyone ...

[01:17:00] Luke Storey: it's hard to vet too. Yeah, exactly. You know, it can be contaminated. You, I used to get mine on Etsy, you know, and they had the little lab report, and I felt good about that, and then one day I was like, "They could have photoshopped a lab report," you know what I'm getting at?

[01:17:12] Luke Storey: It comes in this janky little package from, like, um, Siberia is where I was getting it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And I'm like, "I hope it's okay."

[01:17:18] Caroline Alan: Right, exactly.

[01:17:19] Luke Storey: Um-

[01:17:19] Caroline Alan: Yeah ...

[01:17:20] Luke Storey: what is the, what is, is there, like, a molecular difference between shilajit and the beam minerals?

[01:17:26] Caroline Alan: You know, I don't know. I, uh, and I'm sure that there are different shilajits from different parts of the- Yeah

[01:17:31] Caroline Alan: world that have differ- 'cause I, what I'm really aware of with humic substances is they can have very different molecular weights. Um, and but I- I couldn't tell you. I don't really know, and it would depend on which shilajit. You know, you could- Yeah, yeah ... go and test them and see. You could see the, you could do a C of A on them and see, um, what the difference was.

[01:17:51] Caroline Alan: It might be interesting.

[01:17:52] Luke Storey: Right.

[01:17:53] Caroline Alan: Um-

[01:17:53] Luke Storey: I just- Cost a little money, but- Yeah, the thing about it, I mean- ... if I took a tiny amount of shilajit and, um, [01:18:00] and melted it or diluted it into water, it would still have a taste that your minerals don't have. Like, it's still, you can't get rid of the taste of shilajit, you know?

[01:18:09] Luke Storey: Yeah, and- No matter how much you dilute it, it's gonna have that kind of like-

[01:18:12] Caroline Alan: Yeah ... crunchy, earthy taste. And- and it's still having to be digested.

[01:18:17] Luke Storey: Right

[01:18:17] Caroline Alan: Yeah. I mean, which again, not a bad thing. It's, it's still much more bioavailable than the rock shells bones, but it still does have to be digested. So-

[01:18:28] Luke Storey: A- It- Apart from the, um, kind of the gross minerals, what...

[01:18:33] Luke Storey: You know, I've heard things about, like, trace minerals.

[01:18:36] Caroline Alan: Yeah. Um- That's what these are.

[01:18:37] Luke Storey: Okay.

[01:18:38] Caroline Alan: These are trace minerals.

[01:18:39] Luke Storey: Okay.

[01:18:39] Caroline Alan: Yeah. These are plant-based trace minerals as opposed to salt-based tra- Like, when you put a pinch of salt, that's a salt-based trace mineral.

[01:18:47] Luke Storey: Got it.

[01:18:47] Caroline Alan: Yeah. So-

[01:18:48] Luke Storey: Some salt ... something like, um, like a quinton- Yeah

[01:18:52] Luke Storey: you know, the sea plasma? Yeah. Yeah. That would be- Mm-hmm ... a different form of trace minerals, but more in the salt-

[01:18:57] Caroline Alan: Yes ...

[01:18:57] Luke Storey: salt-based-

[01:18:58] Caroline Alan: Exactly ...

[01:18:58] Luke Storey: realm?

[01:18:59] Caroline Alan: Exactly. [01:19:00]

[01:19:00] Luke Storey: Okay.

[01:19:00] Caroline Alan: Yeah.

[01:19:00] Luke Storey: Got it.

[01:19:00] Caroline Alan: And, and so what I always say, like, people say, "Well, what's the difference?" And I'm like, "Well, quinton's great. It has some minerals, and they're bioavailable, but it doesn't have that delivery system that the fulvic has."

[01:19:12] Luke Storey: Ah,

[01:19:13] Caroline Alan: right. That's the one thing that's so freaking cool about these, is both the increasing of the cell wall permeability, the, uh, the capacities in the system. So with quinton, with all sorts of other... With salts and different things, you're putting content, mineral content in your system, but you're missing that delivery capacity.

[01:19:34] Luke Storey: Got it.

[01:19:34] Caroline Alan: That's why people feel a difference so much when they take these.

[01:19:39] Luke Storey: Got it. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[01:19:41] Caroline Alan: Mm-hmm.

[01:19:41] Luke Storey: Yeah. Well, I highly encourage everyone to, uh, check out some Beam minerals, and, uh, for those that want to do so, looks like I got you a 20% off here. Your boy Luke is hooking it up- ... per usual.

[01:19:52] Luke Storey: Actually, you're hooking it up. So thank you for that. Uh, you go to beamminerals.com/luke, and the code is [01:20:00] Luke20, and you get 20% off your order. Uh, well, thank you for coming back to join me. Uh, I- Thank you ... always enjoy our conversations, and there's always more to learn. I know you're, you're a real geek for the research, you know- Yeah

[01:20:12] Luke Storey: which I appreciate. Luke. I feel like every time I talk to you, you've gone a little bit deeper. I love people that find a lane, and they just go, you know? It's like you're not trying to become an expert on all things. Right. It's just like you found your thing, you're in love with it, and- Yeah ... uh, you're following your passion and sharing it with people, so I appreciate that.

[01:20:30] Caroline Alan: Awesome. Thank you so much- Thank you ... for the opportunity to get the word out.

[01:20:34] Luke Storey: Hell yeah.

[01:20:35] Caroline Alan: Thank you.

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