Buckle up – there’s a lot packed into this mega quadcast episode as three incredibly talented and intelligent guests join me for an introspective roundtable discussion on love, life, and death. We have Josh Trent of Wellness Wisdom, Cal Callahan of The Great Unlearn, and Dr. John Lieurance of Mitozen.
We cover a fascinating range of subjects, touching on vision quests, why it’s such a tragedy that the world no longer practices rites of passage, the difference between fear and anxiety, how the ego is at the core of both, and finding purpose in the pain and suffering that takes place in the world.
It’s a deep, wide-ranging conversation that fans of the show or any of these fine folks are going to love. Tune in now.
00:52 — Vision Quests & Rites of Passage
Stripping the ego
Going into a vision quest with expectations
Learning from the takeaways
The science behind fasting (and my personal experience)
The loss of rites of passage in the world
37:16 — Fear vs. Anxiety
FEAR: For Everyone’s Attention, Responsibly
The difference between fear and anxiety
What is future planning and what is anxious projecting
Learning to love fear
How melatonin manages the parasympathetic nervous system
Embracing death of the ego and pushing into gratitude
Not closing your heart in relationships
Creating a pattern interrupt to relax
Wired generational trauma
Codependency as a root of addiction
01:40:18 — Unpacking the Purpose of Pain
How our pain becomes our purpose
Why evil exists in the world
Striving for humility and recognizing opportunity for growth
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