[00:00:47] Luke Storey: So I just thought of a great way to start this episode, and, uh, it's, it won't be as climactic as I would've hoped, but that's because of the spontaneity of it. But a couple days [00:01:00] ago, uh, I, we, everyone listening and watching celebrated 10 years of the Life Stylist Podcast.

[00:01:08] Alyson Charles Storey: Woo. Insert loud applause.

[00:01:10] Luke Storey: Yeah, the first episode was published June 6, 2016, and I realized that a couple days ago when we were in Indiana, and it w- it was, there was no way to celebrate it, uh, you know, at that particular time.

[00:01:25] Luke Storey: But I just wanted to acknowledge that and, and thank everyone who's been listening. Uh, a, a few people, from what I understand, have been listening the whole time, which is astonishing to me, 'cause sometimes I don't even know how I'm still doing this.

[00:01:39] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, there are some people who've claimed to have listened to every single episode, so they're going on, what?

[00:01:44] Alyson Charles Storey: Almost 700?

[00:01:45] Luke Storey: Well, today's episode, I'm glad you mentioned that, is episode 674. Okay. So the show notes for everything we talk about today that's clickable or researchable will be at lukestore.com/674.

[00:01:58] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, congratulations, honey. That [00:02:00] really is a powerful milestone, especially in, you know, I mean, I guess in any entrepreneurship, uh, realm or category to be going at something for a decade, no matter what the lane is, is commendable.

[00:02:16] Alyson Charles Storey: But I think especially in the media space and the podcast space, especially over the years as the space has gotten so saturated, or some might say overly saturated, to keep holding the line and going strong is, is a big deal.

[00:02:31] Luke Storey: Yeah, I mean, it's been a It's been such, um, a gift for me in so many ways. Um, I feel like at times, I don't know if cheated is the right word.

[00:02:47] Luke Storey: I guess it's just fortunate. I feel like the conversations I have, uh, and the people with whom I have them, I would, you know, I would pay to be able to do it.

[00:02:59] Alyson Charles Storey: Right. [00:03:00]

[00:03:00] Luke Storey: When I first started, I remember there were a few people, you know, in the beginning I was, you know, I was-- Well, I was new, so I was less confident, and I didn't really, you know, have a reputation in the wellness industry at that point.

[00:03:13] Luke Storey: And so I remember, you know, some of those early conversations sitting there for 90 minutes, two hours with someone that I really respected and thinking I would have just paid them 500 bucks, you know, to sit and have this conversation, and I'm sitting here doing it for free. Well, I was paying to do it for the first year 'cause I-- the podcast didn't make money, so I had to pay for all the production myself.

[00:03:36] Luke Storey: Uh, thankfully, I had another business going at that time, so I could fund this one, uh, you know, for the first few months or year until it got going. But yeah, it's, it's wild. I, I think that I'm someone who doesn't like a lot of change. It's interesting. I mean, you know me, I'm very spontaneous and I live in the moment, but I don't like moving [00:04:00] houses.

[00:04:00] Luke Storey: I don't like changing jobs or careers. Like, once I get in something, I just kinda do it until the wheels fall off. I mean, I worked in the fashion industry for 15 years, and I don't know that I even liked it. Yeah. I mean, there were aspects of the, the creativity I liked, but the industry itself and- Right

[00:04:17] Luke Storey: you know, kind of the culture of it wasn't such a fit for me.

[00:04:20] Alyson Charles Storey: That's funny.

[00:04:21] Luke Storey: But yeah, sometimes with this I go, "How long I, what do I do this for? 15 years? 20 years?" I don't know. I don't know how long I will do it. I guess I do it until the conversations are no longer inspiring and, um, you know, interesting to me.

[00:04:34] Luke Storey: But there's just billions of people out there that I would probably love to talk to some. So here we are. So thank you, uh, those of you watching and listening. I really appreciate that, um, you know, people come and spend time with me and the guests here on the podcast.

[00:04:49] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. Well- '

[00:04:50] Luke Storey: Cause if no one is listening, then I w- then I wouldn't be able to keep doing it.

[00:04:54] Alyson Charles Storey: That is correct.

[00:04:55] Luke Storey: Well, I'd maybe be able to do it, I just, I don't know how I'd pay for it.

[00:04:59] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. [00:05:00]

[00:05:00] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:05:00] Alyson Charles Storey: All right. Well, without further ado, since, uh, we got home at 2:00 in the morning from traveling, and I don't know how you're feeling. I actually feel really good. I don't know how long that'll last, but, uh-

[00:05:12] Luke Storey: Yeah, you're so perky today.

[00:05:14] Luke Storey: You're Little Miss Perksters.

[00:05:15] Alyson Charles Storey: You know, I, and we will get into it. I'm not gonna go on some long tangent, but I thankfully am noticing my effervescence for life coming back. Praise the good Lord. Um- Yeah.

[00:05:27] Luke Storey: I sense that, too.

[00:05:28] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. I've, I've, in, in general, I, for the majority of my life, I've h- always had a natural enthusiasm and a natural joy.

[00:05:39] Alyson Charles Storey: In fact, I, you know, when I was younger, I would say that there were definitely some people that tried to, like, shame me for that or be, like, drink, drinking the haterade on that. Like, I remember I would get comments here and there of like, "Damn," like, "What are you on? I'll have whatever she's having." Or, you know, like, they would, when I would just enter a room and just [00:06:00] be excited to be there and excited about life and just have that effervescence bubbling, um, yeah, I think some people, um...

[00:06:08] Alyson Charles Storey: Whatever. We're-

[00:06:09] Luke Storey: You know what I call those people?

[00:06:11] Alyson Charles Storey: What?

[00:06:11] Luke Storey: Crabs in the bucket.

[00:06:12] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, yeah. Exactly. There were some crabs in the bucket along the way. Others who really appreciate that about me. But yeah, for various reasons, um, over the last, I don't know how many years, just- I think my system, whether it's mind, body, spirit, soul, emotionally was trying to tend to or get back into harmony, um, that I noticed those effervescent bubbles had dwindled a bit, but I can feel them lifting and circulating and coming back online again, so.

[00:06:44] Luke Storey: I love it. Your, your soda was going a little flat.

[00:06:47] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, the soda, the syrup, like, it had gone. Yeah. The syrup had gotten Uh, unflavorful.

[00:06:56] Luke Storey: I mean, the last few years have been a journey. I mean, since we got together in [00:07:00] 2020, and, you know, we're like refugees trying to escape California and all the tyranny there, and there's just so much w- weird energy in the world to deal with.

[00:07:10] Luke Storey: And then, you know, you have interpersonal things, health challenges, um, you know, people die. Shit is happening in your, you know, interior life, too.

[00:07:21] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[00:07:22] Luke Storey: I don't know. The human, the human, uh, game is, is, uh, not for the faint of heart.

[00:07:27] Alyson Charles Storey: I'm really, though, uh, ready and ig- I'm experiencing the human part differently.

[00:07:34] Alyson Charles Storey: Uh, not that I disagree, per se, with what you just- Better

[00:07:37] Luke Storey: not

[00:07:39] Alyson Charles Storey: Or else after this episode wraps-

[00:07:42] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[00:07:42] Alyson Charles Storey: I'll get what's coming to me. Uh-

[00:07:45] Luke Storey: Let's, let's tell everyone how you yelled at me a couple weeks ago.

[00:07:49] Alyson Charles Storey: Uh, it wasn't a couple weeks ago, just a few days ago, and I don't know that I wanna get into all that. Oh, man.

[00:07:54] Alyson Charles Storey: Not that, you know... I just- I- I'm, like, on a really positive

[00:07:58] Luke Storey: note right now. I know. No, it was, it was [00:08:00] funny, and I won't go into detail, but, um, you know, we, we don't fight. You know, we don't call each other names or slam doors or

[00:08:07] Alyson Charles Storey: scream or anything like that. Yeah, we're very kind and very loving to each

[00:08:09] Luke Storey: other.

[00:08:09] Luke Storey: Um, but I tried to... Uh, I, I posed the idea of possibly pulling the plug on, on, uh, going to see Allison's family because I was just completely, uh, underwater with this final, final, final edit of my book. And, uh, yeah.

[00:08:24] Alyson Charles Storey: My God.

[00:08:25] Luke Storey: And we had planned it, you know, for a while, and there was a lot of things resting on that, and yeah, that wasn't well received.

[00:08:33] Alyson Charles Storey: W- th- this is why I didn't really wanna get into it 'cause there's a lot... You can't just leave it hanging like that. Now we have to unpack it a little bit 'cause to say it wasn't well received, there's a lot more context and nuance to that because I did stay calm for quite some time. Uh, but if you're gonna tell the story, then we have to tell the whole story.

[00:08:50] Alyson Charles Storey: We can't just, like, s- leave it like that. That doesn't feel aligned for me energetically now. Um, so, so yeah, at first when you [00:09:00] proposed the idea, even though I was caught off guard, did I know that you'd been working on these 10 times final edit, turn in m- final manuscript thing forever? Yes. I've witnessed you for the last four years working on this book or however long.

[00:09:14] Alyson Charles Storey: Um, but even with that awareness, it was still a curveball that you were proposing that you would not be able to attend this trip. And I still remained very calm, and I laid on my back, and I listened, and I was breathing, and I was processing. Even though I was very much caught off guard, I was still very calm.

[00:09:34] Alyson Charles Storey: It was when you kept- possibly, potentially unnecessarily, like digging your own grave, one could say. You, you just kept talking past what maybe was needed, and then when you tried to inform me as your wife that you were contractually obligated with this book- ... that's what set me off, because it's like-

[00:09:57] Luke Storey: That, that was the tipping point.

[00:09:58] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, for [00:10:00] various reasons. Um, you know, I'm also an author, I'm also an entrepreneur. I know how these things work. I don't need educated that you've signed a book contract and you have a literary agent. I'm fully aware of how these things work, and there was just something about, yeah, that comment that set me off, and the fire ignited inside.

[00:10:19] Alyson Charles Storey: My blood began to boil, and then I... Yeah. Um, I mean, again, something like this happens, I would s- say it's very fair to say once every two to three years, where, like, one of us has an outburst like this. But yeah, I did tell you to shut the F up, and I needed a moment. And I shut the bedroom door and went in the closet- Oh, no

[00:10:29] Alyson Charles Storey: and stewed in there. So good. I stewed in there thinking about how I could remind you that we also have a contract as a married couple. I was really coming up with some good things

[00:10:53] Alyson Charles Storey: in the closet. And then before we went to bed, we were pretty much fine.

[00:10:58] Luke Storey: Yeah, you can never go to bed mad.

[00:10:59] Alyson Charles Storey: [00:11:00] Yeah.

[00:11:00] Luke Storey: Yeah, that's, that's not, that's a, that's a hard, fast rule. I mean, I think what's great is that, uh- You know, thankfully, I think we each have a decent ability at self-regulating and coming back to a feeling of safety within ourselves.

[00:11:19] Luke Storey: Um, 'cause there would've been a time in my life in relationships if there was any sort of crunchiness like that, it would be very difficult for me to just stay in my own space and to feel okay.

[00:11:35] Alyson Charles Storey: Hmm.

[00:11:35] Luke Storey: Like, I would feel really panicked until I was able to fix the situation or get you or whomever to, um, to feel good again.

[00:11:43] Luke Storey: It was difficult for me to kind of untangle my feelings and my experience from, uh, from someone else's. So that was, uh-

[00:11:50] Alyson Charles Storey: Because also it's not your job or my job to make anybody feel good again necessarily. Yeah, totally. You know? That's an inside- Totally ... job, so.

[00:11:58] Luke Storey: Yeah, just like, you [00:12:00] know, I, I wouldn't ever say to you hopefully, uh, if I was, you know, being as aware as I would like to be, like, "Well, you made me mad," or, "You d- you made me feel this way or that way."

[00:12:09] Luke Storey: It's like, you can't make me feel any way. Mm-hmm. And I can't make you feel any way.

[00:12:13] Alyson Charles Storey: Right.

[00:12:13] Luke Storey: Whether it's positive or negative, right? It's like I can't... If you're kind of in a mood, I can't be like, "Come on, be happy. I'm gonna make you happy." You can't make someone else happy. Yeah. Just like you can't make someone else mad.

[00:12:23] Alyson Charles Storey: I had to go through sitting on the closet with the door shut, you know, being on the floor in there and, like, just- You

[00:12:28] Luke Storey: went into the rage room.

[00:12:29] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. I had to go through my own, like, getting the, the boiled blood down to, uh, room temp again, and then-

[00:12:37] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[00:12:37] Alyson Charles Storey: yeah, by the, the next morning, I mean, we were f- we were fine that night.

[00:12:42] Alyson Charles Storey: Um, but then by the next morning you had apologized for... I don't even remember what you apologized for, and I apologized for cussing at you.

[00:12:50] Luke Storey: Well, I think where I went wrong perhaps was I was kind of worked up. I was in a state, and I was kind of getting, [00:13:00] um, very anxious around, you know, some of the, the pressure that I was feeling, whether real or imagined.

[00:13:07] Luke Storey: And, um, so when I opened up the topic, what I apologized for was I led with like, "Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna go." A panic,

[00:13:16] Alyson Charles Storey: yeah.

[00:13:17] Luke Storey: Which really what, what... If I could, you know, turn back time, I would've said like, "Hey, I'm, you know, I'm starting to experience a lot of anxiety because I'm sensing X, Y, and Z."

[00:13:26] Alyson Charles Storey: Can we talk about some solutions?

[00:13:27] Luke Storey: Yeah. You know, what are our options here?

[00:13:29] Alyson Charles Storey: Right. You just sat down and you're like, "So look, I'm not gonna be able to go." Yeah. And I was just like, "Whoa. What?" Yeah. Yeah.

[00:13:34] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:13:35] Alyson Charles Storey: Cool

[00:13:36] Luke Storey: So, but that, you know, that's the thing. I mean, I've talked about, I think I talked about it with, with John Gray the other day, is, uh, I just, it, th- there is some s- scientific validity to this in, in the male brain, you know?

[00:13:50] Luke Storey: It's like we, we have different kind of brains, men and women, right? And so there's something in the male brain wherein when [00:14:00] you're feeling emotionally charged, the prefrontal cortex loses blood flow, and you basically go brain dead.

[00:14:09] Alyson Charles Storey: Hmm.

[00:14:09] Luke Storey: It's very difficult to think clearly and logically- Mm-hmm ... and also have strong feelings at the same time.

[00:14:14] Alyson Charles Storey: I've witnessed that in you.

[00:14:16] Luke Storey: Yeah. Yeah. Just any, any guys listening will know, like, if you're upset, you're gonna lose the argument with a woman, because she can still think very clearly, even when she's emotionally triggered.

[00:14:25] Alyson Charles Storey: As, as in- highly intelligent, um, as you are, you know, you're so wise. Yeah. When your brain goes into that mode, I've heard you say the wildest stuff that makes no sense.

[00:14:38] Alyson Charles Storey: Oh, my God. And I'm like, "Honey." It's almost alarming, 'cause I'm like, "Are you re- you really think that's a good idea?" D- that really does feel like a shutdown in part of your

[00:14:46] Luke Storey: brain. 100%. Yeah. Brain goes offline, emotions are, adrenaline's too high. I remember when we were, uh, looking for a place to live in 2020 and we went to Ari- Arizona.

[00:14:57] Luke Storey: We stayed in Sedona for two months.

[00:14:59] Alyson Charles Storey: Yes.

[00:14:59] Luke Storey: And, [00:15:00] um- I

[00:15:00] Alyson Charles Storey: remember that well ...

[00:15:00] Luke Storey: we stayed in a couple Airbnbs, and I don't remember what the deal was with Cookie, if there were no dogs allowed or if we didn't ask, but-

[00:15:06] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, we needed to... We decided because we'd been there for so long, and this isn't a long story, um, 'cause we, the irony is we both said today, "Let's just get right into the AMAs.

[00:15:15] Alyson Charles Storey: Let's not chat before," and now we're chatting. But, um, yeah, when we were in Sedona, we wanted to get into a different place unexpectedly. And so we found this place, and I think after we booked it, maybe we realized that dogs weren't technically allowed. But Cookie's a service dog and so well-behaved, we were like, "Eh."

[00:15:37] Alyson Charles Storey: I think that's how it went. I,

[00:15:38] Luke Storey: I think that's what it was, yeah. And then we were, we had to run some errands or we had to be somewhere. Inter- the internet in Sedona is, like, 1996. It's terrible. So we were, you know, trying to do the podcast, so we're running around trying to find good internet. So we were under some pressure to leave, and, uh, it was one of those situations where, like, I was feeling very anxious, and my, [00:16:00] uh, capacity for rational thought completely shut down.

[00:16:04] Luke Storey: And so we're about to leave, and we're like, "What are we going to do with Cookie?" And I, and I go-

[00:16:08] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, the owner was coming over. Yeah,

[00:16:10] Luke Storey: yeah, yeah.

[00:16:10] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[00:16:10] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, the owner had to stop by, so we're like, "Oh, what are we gonna do with Cookie?" I was like, "Oh, I'm just gonna put her in the closet." "Uh, I'll just set her in the closet, and then we'll go do our thing, and then the, if, you know, the landlord can come and do whatever she needs to do, and Cookie'll just be hidden in the closet."

[00:16:24] Alyson Charles Storey: And I'm like, "Wait a second. Let me get this right. We're gonna go grocery shopping, the two of us." Also side note, Cookie goes pretty much everywhere with us. She flies on the plane. You know, she goes on all these trips with us. And I'm like, "We're gonna go to the grocery store together. We're gonna leave the dog here.

[00:16:40] Alyson Charles Storey: Not only are we gonna leave the dog here who's not supposed to be here, we're gonna put her in the closet." And you think when the landlord comes and, like, either knocks on the door or enters, Cookie's not gonna hear that and not bark, you know? It was just, yeah, that was a hilarious one. So anyways, but to tie this up into a little bow, [00:17:00] um, 'cause my point I was making before we got onto the, uh, the other story was that I'm just, like, I'm finding a new, like, pleasurable relishing in being human that I don't think I was consciously connected with as much previously in life.

[00:17:19] Alyson Charles Storey: There's just something Really, like flourishing and enlivening inside me around th- the gift of being human. And I'm also seeing with, like a new perspective and a new colored lens, the beauty of Earth again, or als- or also potentially in a whole new way that I hadn't experienced it before. Like when we were in Indiana these past seven days, it was almost like I was working with Huachuma the whole time, and anyone who has sat with that particular grandfather medicine, it can tend to, as you look around, especially [00:18:00] at nature, it just, nature is just somehow 100 times more beautiful.

[00:18:06] Alyson Charles Storey: There's just like an extra glimmer, and the colors are more vibrant. And the entire time in Indiana, it was completely medicine-free, um, in that regard. But I, I was seeing the beauty there from the small town that I'm from and the nature there in that way, and I'm just really grateful to be feeling, uh, the way that I'm feeling.

[00:18:24] Alyson Charles Storey: And even human moments, you know, like this one that we're sharing about, um, uh, like, that again, only happens, these outbursts between us in that way only happen once every couple of years. And we are, I wanna make clear, we speak to each other very lovingly and very kindly, and anyone who spends times with us, uh, knows that that's true.

[00:18:45] Alyson Charles Storey: Uh, but it, it's like even in moments like that, I g- I think because of the way that we are together and the way we handle even a rare outburst like that, there's just, I don't know, um, there's, there's just beauty [00:19:00] in the human experience that I'm grateful to feel.

[00:19:04] Luke Storey: Yeah. Unconditional love means no conditions.

[00:19:08] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, I don't know.

[00:19:12] Luke Storey: And I- There's a lot more to unpack there, but ... also, like when something, when something, uh, you know, when something like that happens, I think one of the things that helps me to just stay calm and present to it and not, uh, not create meaning around it. It's just that we have such a high degree of trust between us that I know no matter what happens that we're gonna figure it out and work it out, you know?

[00:19:39] Luke Storey: Yeah, that- So it's not like- Yeah ... there's not an underlying fear of like, are we gonna break up? Is she gonna leave me? Or-

[00:19:44] Alyson Charles Storey: That, that is a big, uh, underlying factor, and I was gonna weave that in, um, is yeah, even when something like that happens, there i- is an ever presence of that wisdom that you just shared.

[00:19:59] Alyson Charles Storey: [00:20:00] Uh, you know, 'cause you and I have both shared countless times about past relationships we've been in where they could be categorized easily as traumatic or abusive or both or, um... And so I, I'm very well of those textures and terrains deeply, very intimately. Um, and y- what you and I have is so completely different, like the foundation, the essence, the, the way that 98, 99% of the time we, whether spoken or not, our energy toward each other is almost always respectful.

[00:20:37] Alyson Charles Storey: And, um, yeah, it has that trust and it has that kindness and it has that love. So when there is a ripple or a wave l- like the one we're, we're sharing What surrounds that is this other thing that's always ever present. So e- experiencing a [00:21:00] blood boiling or an outburst moment like that one with you is completely different than when I would experience an outburst or blood boiling moment in relationships in the past, because those were so filled, and the field in those was so filled and riddled with, like, trauma and fear and, y- y- you know, codependency.

[00:21:22] Alyson Charles Storey: Like, so many lower realm things. The filled w- the field was filled with lower realm energetics. So when an outburst happened like that, it just, it felt terrifying or devastating or whatever. Um, but with you and I, it's, it's completely different.

[00:21:39] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:21:39] Alyson Charles Storey: The field, the f- what the field is surrounded in and filled with is, is a healthy love frequency.

[00:21:49] Alyson Charles Storey: And so-

[00:21:50] Luke Storey: There's a, there's a greater context of safety. Yeah. And so- Yeah ... within that context, there's moments where there's content, but the [00:22:00] content is held within a much greater context. So there's, like, a sense of safety and, uh, permanence to the bond that supersedes, you know, the minutiae of humanness that happens from time to time.

[00:22:14] Luke Storey: Y-

[00:22:14] Alyson Charles Storey: yeah, 'cause I remember when I got off the closet room floor and went and laid down in the bed by myself to just continue to self-soothe and tend to my own process, I was ... Not that I was laughing about it, but there was an air already of just kind of, like, the humor because this doesn't happen very often with us.

[00:22:35] Alyson Charles Storey: It's, it's almost like, I don't know, I don't wanna say it's inevitable to have an outburst like that, but ... And I don't wanna say that we create it just to create it, but because 99% of the time we are so gentle and kind and respectful to each other, it's almost like every once or two years, it's like, let's throw, you know- Let's mix it up.

[00:22:55] Alyson Charles Storey: Let's, like, let's, let's slam a door, you know? Like, I don't know. And so I was [00:23:00] just kind of laying in the bed laughing, knowing that all is totally well, knowing that you and I are gonna be fine. In about another 10 minutes, one of us is gonna go to the other, and we're gonna cuddle and apologize. And I, I, I remember laying there kinda chuckling inside at that moment we had.

[00:23:18] Luke Storey: I was chuckling the whole time.

[00:23:20] Alyson Charles Storey: You were?

[00:23:21] Luke Storey: Yeah. I mean, I wasn't, you know, happy that we had a disagreement or a moment of, you know, tension, but I was just laughing at your fire.

[00:23:31] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. I was,

[00:23:32] Luke Storey: like, kind of proud of you in a weird way. Like, yeah, yeah, she's really good at advocating for herself, you know?

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[00:25:07] Luke Storey: Yeah. Anyway, all right, let's jump into the, the AMA. We have a lot of, we have a l- I, I just took a quick glance at them, and there's quite a good collection of questions, so.

[00:25:16] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, so keep your curiosities coming. What's that email they can email? We're gonna confirm, but, um, yeah, you guys have been really sending in some, some fun ones to chat about, so keep 'em coming.

[00:25:27] Alyson Charles Storey: All right, the first one, they did not list their name, so it's from an unknown listener, and he or she says, "I'm about to adopt an eight-month-old rescue dog." Aw, congratulations. "She's up to date on all the things, but once I have her, we won't do any more interventions." Excuse me. "I'd like to know more about holistic pet care, detoxing them, and the healthiest dog diet on a budget."

[00:25:52] Alyson Charles Storey: Feel like this is a good lane for us.

[00:25:54] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a question, uh, close to my heart. I mean- You [00:26:00] know, on a budget part is always challenging because some of the coolest things out there for humans and pets in terms of, uh, you know, health is, are expensive, which is annoying. Um, but starting at the beginning of the question, yeah, when, when I, uh, adopted Cookie, you know, she had been through the, you know, the rescue system, the foster system for doggies, and so, um, they gave her all of her, you know, the required medication, yada, yada.

[00:26:30] Luke Storey: Um, and much like, uh, with humans that have reactions to certain medications, when I first adopted her, she had crazy allergies and hot spots, and was like chewing her skin till it bled. Aw. It was just totally, uh, nuts because they had just given her all those shots, you know? That's-- at least that's my, you know, s- suspicion.

[00:26:53] Luke Storey: So of course, I immediately, uh, you know, stopped all of that. I, I think the, the [00:27:00] problem with domestic pets is, um, that we have a parallel system for humans. There's a medical system for humans, allopathic medicine, and then you have the veterinary system, and they both kind of go hand-in-hand and operate in the same way.

[00:27:14] Luke Storey: So I don't know that I'm correct, but my perspective is that, uh, you know, there's a lot of well-meaning people in the, in the veterinary industry, and I'm sure most of them are very, uh, you know, just well-intentioned, intelligent, kind people that are just, um, operating within the context of a system. I believe that a lot of the, um, interventions for pets at the highest level are maybe intentionally meant to make them sick and create a lifetime customer.

[00:27:50] Luke Storey: Uh, you know, which is kind of a bold claim, but, uh, that's, that's what I believe, and it's, it's my podcast, and I can say what I want. Uh, and the reason that I, you know, believe this [00:28:00] is just from, I don't know, years of kind of, hmm, researching some of the, uh, uh, the corruption within the medical industry at large, including, you know, the pet industry, and also from going into traditional vets and having them constantly trying to upsell you on 50 different dog pharmaceuticals.

[00:28:24] Luke Storey: I mean, it's just insane Yeah, they

[00:28:24] Alyson Charles Storey: have a list. They literally sometimes will come into the room with a checklist of like, "You should do this. Will you, will you do this?"

[00:28:31] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's in- it's insane. So, um, so personally, I am a advocate for, you know, completely organic pets. You know? Don't need to do any- anything to them.

[00:28:44] Luke Storey: Um, I, you know, I don't know, rabies is... I, I've not seen Cookie get in a fight with a raccoon any time recently. I don't know how a dog would get rabies if they're not running around in the wild. Um, I'm not even sure if rabies is a real thing. I don't know. Um, all I [00:29:00] know is the less medication we've given our dog, the healthier she is, uh, which is paradoxical to what you'd be led to believe by your, you know, your vet down the street.

[00:29:12] Luke Storey: Um, so that's number one, making sure Uh, and I'm just speaking for our dog 'cause I'm not, you know, I'm not a vet, so I'm not gonna give medical advice for this person. But to answer the question, I can answer it, um, from a subjective, uh, point of view. So the water is really, really important, just like it is for humans.

[00:29:29] Luke Storey: So, you know, Cookie gets at the very least highly purified structured water. Uh, if budget allows, which it usually doesn't, she drinks deuterium-depleted water from Lightwater, the 10 PPM. Um, and the reason that I like to give her that water is because it's, uh, very, uh, powerfully anti-cancer. I interviewed a doctor, a PhD immunologist named Dr.

[00:29:52] Luke Storey: Q. Collins a number of years ago, and he's an expert on deuterium, and we'll link to that in the show notes. And, uh, he actually [00:30:00] piloted a study where I think it was, it was either 50 or 100 dogs with cancer and put them on a keto diet, which I would argue dogs would naturally be on anyway. Uh, and they drank, uh, deuterium-depleted water, and I forget what the results were, but the remission rates were insane just from giving them, you know, ra- a raw meat diet and having them drink the deuterium-depleted water.

[00:30:24] Luke Storey: So Cookie doesn't have cancer, but I would like her to be cancer-free as long as possible, if not for the rest of her life. So the water's really important. And then, um, you know, the other thing is that there, there are a lot of human-grade supplements that are really good for dogs. I, I would say if, if I had just adopted one that was just immunized...

[00:30:45] Luke Storey: Uh, actually, it's funny, this was in the Luke's latest show and tell, uh, zeolite, this, uh, brand Zeocharge. They have a really great new package, by the way, 'cause they used to be in little jars, and it was quite messy, and now they have them in a little Ziploc bag. But, uh, zeolite, [00:31:00] and I don't... You know, this is the only zeolite I personally, um, have researched enough to recommend.

[00:31:04] Luke Storey: There's a lot out there on the market that may be, uh, more or less clean. But this is a really clean one, and you can put a little zeolite or even activated charcoal in your dog's food, and that's a really good way to detox their gut, um, especially if they've just been, uh, injected with a bunch of strange shit.

[00:31:19] Luke Storey: I mean, now they're giving dogs, um, mRNA vaccines, and so your dogs are, like, shedding in your house now. Not like hair shedding, but shedding spike proteins. I mean, it's diabolical. I think they just really wanna eliminate all happiness for humanity.

[00:31:35] Alyson Charles Storey: Jeez.

[00:31:37] Luke Storey: It's like, "Don't let them have healthy pets, God forbid."

[00:31:39] Luke Storey: So yeah, the, the detoxing is really good. Uh, C60, this other brand. Yeah, I didn't, uh, plan this, but another one of my show and tells is a company called My Vital C. And My Vital C is one of the Uh, OG C60, carbon C60, which is a really unique, um, antioxidant [00:32:00] molecule. It's shaped like a Bucky ball, a Buckminsterfullerene ball.

[00:32:03] Luke Storey: And so they're these, uh, minuscule little antioxidant molecules, and they're really good for inflammation, and that's one of the things that happens when pets get a lot of shots and also just, you know, eating a poor diet. So C60 is really good for the doggies. Um, detoxing them with-- The, the, um, zeolite's a bit more gentle than charcoal.

[00:32:24] Luke Storey: I mean, charcoal is not gonna hurt your dog. That's what they-- That's what a vet would give your dog if they got poisoned and you took them to the vet. They'd give them activated charcoal. So it's safe, but it's also gonna, it's gonna suck up anything, um, including nutrients. Uh, so you wanna feed them the, um, you know, charcoal, um, kind of at a time when you haven't given them supplements or food and things like that.

[00:32:45] Luke Storey: Uh, but zeolite's probably the safest one. The C60, the beam minerals, the fulvic minerals are really good. Um, and also, uh, every once in a while, we'll give Cookie Quinton minerals, [00:33:00] uh, the, um, the hypertonic or the isotonic, the, the sea plasma, which is, um, you know, just super rich in minerals. I think one of the things that dogs sometimes miss is minerals, unless you're giving them organ meats.

[00:33:12] Luke Storey: You know, organ meats are loaded with minerals. Probably the best, um, natural source other than oysters and certain seafood that also have a lot of minerals. So the Detox with the zeolite or charcoal and the, uh, C60 for the inflammation, the minerals however you can get them in them. Another thing that's great for dogs is, uh, chlorella and spirulina.

[00:33:39] Luke Storey: However, I learned-

[00:33:40] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah ...

[00:33:40] Luke Storey: that you only need to give them a little, and if you give them too much, which I did once, uh, it can make your dog kind of sick. Uh, it's just, it's so rich. Uh, but, you know, you could use one of the little energy bits. I mean, like, one spirulina or two or a chlorella, pop that in their food and that's, that's, you know, incredibly nutritious.

[00:33:59] Luke Storey: And the [00:34:00] spirulina has- Yeah,

[00:34:00] Alyson Charles Storey: you tried to mega dose Cookie that day ...

[00:34:02] Luke Storey: Yeah, that was a, that was a bit of a fail. But the spirulina's interesting also 'cause it has something called phycocyanin, which is a really potent anti-cancer molecule as well. Um, and the spirulina and chlorella are just completely natural, uh, algaes, so, you know, there's nothing, um, pharmaceutical about them.

[00:34:20] Luke Storey: I think those would probably be the top. Um, and then also the doggies, they gotta be outside. They gotta be in the sun. They need, they need-

[00:34:29] Alyson Charles Storey: Grounding.

[00:34:30] Luke Storey: Yeah, they need grounding and natural light. So, um, unlike most dogs, our dog Cookie is not really a fan of being outside in the yard, which is weird 'cause most dogs are obsessed with being outside.

[00:34:41] Luke Storey: Well, if

[00:34:42] Alyson Charles Storey: we are, she is.

[00:34:43] Luke Storey: Yeah. But if we're in here, she's not gonna go hang out in the backyard by herself.

[00:34:46] Alyson Charles Storey: True.

[00:34:47] Luke Storey: Uh, she's, she's, uh, you know, very attached.

[00:34:49] Alyson Charles Storey: She's a Velcro dog.

[00:34:50] Luke Storey: Yeah. Uh, and then another thing I learned recently, probably from one of your TikToks or something, was, you know, I'm always very concerned about Cookie not getting enough exercise, so I feel [00:35:00] like, oh, if we take her on a short walk, it doesn't really count 'cause she's not getting her heart rate up.

[00:35:04] Luke Storey: And I learned that if you just... You can take your dog on a shorter walk and just let them sniff like crazy, and the sniffing uses up so much of their, their brain power, so much energy, and they're actually kind of almost hyperventilating when they're on a sniff fest. So that's a way that you can pack more sort of exercise in a shorter period of time with your dog, and also get them outside in that, in that light.

[00:35:30] Luke Storey: And then I also like to treat Cookie, um, you know, with red light therapy and lasers and things like that.

[00:35:36] Alyson Charles Storey: She goes into the sauna on her own.

[00:35:38] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:35:38] Alyson Charles Storey: Now, obviously you'd have to be careful 'cause dogs don't sweat, and so yeah. Yeah. She, she seems to know she, when she needs to exit. Like, she'll get up and go to the little door flap and ask to be let out.

[00:35:54] Alyson Charles Storey: But yeah, you have to be careful

[00:35:55] Luke Storey: there. Yeah. I mean, I, I think animals are really brilliant teachers [00:36:00] in that way 'cause you can watch what they gravitate towards. So sometimes I'll turn the sauna space sauna, which is a little, um, you know, canvas tent, and I'll be like, "Where the hell is Cookie?" And I'm warming up the sauna, and then I go get in there, and she's already in there.

[00:36:13] Luke Storey: She's, yeah,

[00:36:13] Alyson Charles Storey: she's, uh, taking over the

[00:36:13] Luke Storey: entire sauna. But I have been, I have been bitched at by Karens on social media when, 'cause I posted Cookie in the sauna. They're like, "You're gonna kill your dog." I'm like, "I'm pretty sure the dog knows when it's time to get out." Like, she's not gonna sit in there and be like, "Oh, I'm too hot, but I guess I'll just lay here and die."

[00:36:28] Luke Storey: Uh, she can just walk right out. And sometimes if, if I sense she's panting, I'll kind of, like, encourage her to get out.

[00:36:33] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[00:36:34] Luke Storey: But I mean, she's in there for five minutes or something, you know? And she's on the floor. She's not like You know, in front of the lights or up high where it's the hottest.

[00:36:42] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. And, uh, my little two cents on this because this person is saying that they don't plan to do any more i- interventions, um, I- obviously, what you feed the dog is going to be vitally important because they're eating [00:37:00] twice a day- Yeah

[00:37:01] Alyson Charles Storey: every day. So we get, um, a couple of brands. One is called Green JuJu, J-U J-U, and another one is Stella & Chewy's, and there might be a third, but it's more of the raw meat-

[00:37:16] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[00:37:17] Alyson Charles Storey: uh, we also had Cookie, um, allergy tested with like a lady who swung a pendulum and I- I, you know, not that I don't believe in that, but I'm just not sure how accurate this lady was at doing it.

[00:37:28] Alyson Charles Storey: But we have a list for Cookie, um, you know, like she's fine with duck and goat meat and beef, but she's not supposed to have chicken and turkey, so we kind of have a list refined for her and some of... Like the Green JuJu is, um, raw meat with like very few, there's only like three other ingredients, like carrot or other things that sh- are okay for her, so getting a really simple high quality food.

[00:37:55] Luke Storey: Yeah. That's, I'm glad you thought of that 'cause she did mention, you know, on a [00:38:00] budget. Unfortunately, a lot of the, the raw, you know, pasture raised, regenerative, grass fed, I mean, you know, you can get some pretty good... I mean, it's not human grade meat, but, uh, you can get some, you know, pretty good dog food, but it is expensive.

[00:38:14] Luke Storey: I mean, I notice when we go to the- Yeah ... the dog store, pick up the dog food, it's like, "Uh, that was $100," or whatever, you know. It's just- Yeah,

[00:38:20] Alyson Charles Storey: but if there's gonna be one thing you put your money into, I mean- Totally ... water as well,

[00:38:24] Luke Storey: but- You, you could skip the dog supplements and just make sure they're not eating a bunch of carbohydrate, you know- Yeah

[00:38:30] Luke Storey: GMO kibble, uh.

[00:38:32] Alyson Charles Storey: Right.

[00:38:33] Luke Storey: You know, just thi- it's like same thing with humans. When the paleo diet became all the rage, people kind of figured out, oh, we've been armnivo- omnivores for, uh, you know, all of recorded history and these are the kind of foods we've eaten historically that have helped us to, uh, survive and thrive, and then all of a sudden, you know, um, when our diets became really heavy in, uh, you know, in simple carbs, then, uh, you know, like grain based diet, there's a lot of health [00:39:00] problems.

[00:39:00] Luke Storey: And so it's the same thing for dogs. You look at, you know, what do coyotes and wolves and foxes eat, you know? They're not eating a bunch of, uh, you know, Saltine crackers and, uh, white Wonder Bread out there. They're, they're eating meat and, uh, you know, probably other berries and shit they can scavenge, I assume.

[00:39:16] Luke Storey: Uh, Cookie loves the blueberries too, the flo- frozen blueberries.

[00:39:18] Alyson Charles Storey: She is obsessed with our- Yeah ... wild, uh, frozen organic blueberries, yes.

[00:39:23] Luke Storey: But yeah, I think the, the, whatever you can get that's raw, um, and some of the raw dog food is also, the Stella & Chewy's is dehydrated. Um, so it's, um- You know, basically you have to reconstitute it by mixing it with water

[00:39:37] Alyson Charles Storey: but- But that's the one we travel with, and it's so convenient.

[00:39:40] Alyson Charles Storey: You just get a bag- Yeah ... of the Stella & Chewy's, pop it in your suitcase, and then wherever you go, your dog has got the good quality food. Yeah. Whereas the other, the Green Juju and the other frozen brand we get, which I forget the name of, that other one, but, uh, yeah, those go in the freezer and then you just thaw out [00:40:00] however many patties you would need for the next three days and let those thaw.

[00:40:04] Luke Storey: In terms of the food, you know, it is, it is definitely a limitation in terms of budget. If you have a big dog, I mean, I think about how much we spend on Cookie, and she has, what, like, of the small patties, she has six total a day.

[00:40:17] Alyson Charles Storey: Mm-hmm.

[00:40:18] Luke Storey: That's, you know, it's a chunk of change to keep her- Right ... in food.

[00:40:21] Luke Storey: Imagine if she was a freaking Great Dane or something, you know? She'd be eating ha- like, half a bag a day. Well,

[00:40:26] Alyson Charles Storey: I guess you gotta factor that in before you buy the dog.

[00:40:28] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah.

[00:40:29] Alyson Charles Storey: If you know that you don't have the budget to properly feed them, well.

[00:40:31] Luke Storey: That's a good point, so anyone listening that's thinking about getting a dog and money's tight, uh, you know, and you see it remaining so for the foreseeable future, yeah, get a small dog.

[00:40:41] Luke Storey: Just less calories needed to keep 'em going.

[00:40:43] Alyson Charles Storey: And last note on this, um, hopefully you won't need to, uh, you know, your dog will be healthy and thriving enough, you won't need ongoing vet care, but in Austin, we are so grateful there's a holistic vet that we take Cookie to. It's called Roots Integrative Vets or [00:41:00] something like that.

[00:41:00] Alyson Charles Storey: And, um, and so yeah, they don't push that list that we were referring to that other more traditional vets do. Uh, and they also ha- now have their own in-house pharmacy, so for, you know, heartworm prevention, um, or things like that, they actually compound ivermectin in-house for Cookie and things like that.

[00:41:26] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. So she gets, like, actual Chinese herb supplements, um, for her lungs or for her allergies as opposed to dog pharmaceuticals.

[00:41:35] Luke Storey: That was an, that was another difficult thing is, um, some of the more, uh, traditional kind of VC-backed, um, what's the word? Um- You know, these chains of, like, a vet- Franchise

[00:41:49] Luke Storey: franchise. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, you can't even walk in the door unless you have all your papers, you know? Right. And so that's, that's kind of problematic, too. So finding a [00:42:00] holistic vet was really helpful. You know, we walk in, we're just like, "We're not doing any of that, so case closed. Next, next."

[00:42:06] Luke Storey: You know?

[00:42:07] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[00:42:07] Luke Storey: It's not, it's not a conversation we're entering. And they're not

[00:42:09] Alyson Charles Storey: jerks when you say that either. Just like, "Okay." You know?

[00:42:12] Luke Storey: Yeah, they kinda give you a wink almost. Like, "Yeah, we get it. It's gnarly." Yeah. So yeah. Hopefully that's helpful to our, our doggy lover. I, I mean, I think h- getting this dog was one of the biggest upgrades of my entire life.

[00:42:26] Luke Storey: I can't believe I was, uh, I felt like I was missing out on a lot of, a lot of love for a very long time by not really being into dogs.

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[00:44:23] Alyson Charles Storey: Okay. Are you ready for Luke's latest, or do you wanna do another one?

[00:44:26] Luke Storey: No, let's do it.

[00:44:27] Alyson Charles Storey: Which one?

[00:44:27] Luke Storey: Luke's latest. Oh That's my favorite part.

[00:44:29] Alyson Charles Storey: Okay. Well, go for it.

[00:44:30] Luke Storey: Okay, so Luke's latest, for those that don't know, uh, I'm constantly... I'm a geek, you know. I just admit it. I'm constantly researching, buying, trying out new stuff in the realm of, uh, wellness tools.

[00:44:44] Luke Storey: And so we do these episodes once a month, and I always think like, "Oh, there's nothing new," and then I go through the cupboards or check the mail, and I go, "Oh, actually, there's some cool new things that I've discovered that I wanna share." Um, sometimes they're so new, I don't, you know, I don't really know what [00:45:00] to make of them yet, but they're interesting enough to at least talk about.

[00:45:03] Luke Storey: So, um, I already mentioned the Zeocharge zeolite, and that's not new. In fact, I had the founder on the podcast a year ago or so. Um, they have new packaging, but I think I brought this up... Well, it ended up being good for the dog question, but I just... It's become, like, a daily thing now. Uh- I love

[00:45:23] Alyson Charles Storey: it, too. I'm really drawn to it.

[00:45:24] Luke Storey: Yeah. When I travel, I don't know, there's just... I'll notice, like, if I don't take it at night, usually I do it... Well, sometimes I do it in the morning, too. I definitely do it when I take saunas, but I like to take it, like, very last thing before I go to bed, and 100% s- with 100% certainty, I can say I wake up much more clear-minded and refreshed and just not so groggy when I take the zeolite at night.

[00:45:53] Luke Storey: Well,

[00:45:54] Alyson Charles Storey: especially after travel. L- I mean, truly, true statement, when we got home at 2:00 AM or 1:30 AM [00:46:00] this morning, the last thing I did before I went to sleep was I drank a glass of zeolite. Samesies. And I really think... I mean, 'cause oh, my gosh, I don't even like to think about when you're on those planes, the things you're breathing in and whatever, but I really feel like that helped me wake up without, like, a travel headache or-

[00:46:18] Luke Storey: Yeah

[00:46:18] Alyson Charles Storey: some of that stuff you get from the inflammation.

[00:46:21] Luke Storey: Yeah, me too. It also sucks up, um, endotoxins and histamines, so it's not just, you know, metals and mold and, uh, pesticide residue and shit that you end up, you know, ingesting inadvertently, but it soaks up kind of anything that you don't want in your gut.

[00:46:40] Alyson Charles Storey: Ickies.

[00:46:41] Luke Storey: It soaks up all the ickies, so huge fan of Zeocharge zeolite, and it's, you know, it's, it's relatively affordable in terms of a supplement. I think for the benefit you get for a dollar-

[00:46:51] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah ...

[00:46:51] Luke Storey: uh, it's pretty good.

[00:46:52] Alyson Charles Storey: I was taking it on my parasite cleanse, too, which was helpful.

[00:46:56] Luke Storey: Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing.

[00:46:58] Luke Storey: I mean, we have all kinds of, uh, [00:47:00] microbes in our gut, you know. Some are beneficial and some less so, but those things, uh, you know, they go poop inside you, and so that's, you know, there's a- They

[00:47:07] Alyson Charles Storey: do. They toot and poop inside your

[00:47:09] Luke Storey: tummy ... yeah, there's, there's a lot of, uh, toxins that aren't even coming from-

[00:47:12] Alyson Charles Storey: Then you've got your toots and poop and their toots and poop.

[00:47:15] Alyson Charles Storey: Yes.

[00:47:17] Luke Storey: Uh, next thing is, so I went max today somewhere in my, uh, I'm getting the last- It just fell

[00:47:26] Alyson Charles Storey: off.

[00:47:26] Luke Storey: Well, I put it on before I went to bed. Ah. So it's like way past its expiration. Uh-huh. But this is the, uh, Ion Layer, uh, NAD patch. I just feel like I wanna suck as much out of it as I can, even though it's... I wore it, like, you know, all night.

[00:47:41] Luke Storey: Uh, but I'm, I'm into the NAD. Um, and their patches are super cool, and interestingly, I don't know what they changed, but they used to kinda irritate my skin, so I'd have to switch arms halfway through the eight-hour, you know, absorption period. And I had one on all night last night while I slept, and it didn't, it didn't irritate my skin at all.

[00:47:58] Alyson Charles Storey: Nice.

[00:47:59] Luke Storey: So I don't know if they changed [00:48:00] something. Um, the patches are super cool. NAD, uh, NAD+ is, um, you know, essentially what it takes to, uh, make energy in your mitochondria to make ATP. And so, you know, your body can produce NAD, but as you get older, your levels typically tank. So some people are really against the idea of using exogenous NAD, but I find my body really likes it, and I feel really good, especially for travel.

[00:48:27] Luke Storey: So, um, you know, these patches are awesome. However, uh... Oh, I know what I was gonna say. You can't take NAD orally, so a lot of companies make different precursors, which are the things that your body uses to make NAD. 'Cause you can produce it, but just less so as you get older. So you can really only get NAD into your system with a needle or with these, these particular patches that have, um...

[00:48:52] Luke Storey: They're conductive, so they're like a battery, and it drives the NAD molecule into your skin. 'Cause the molecule's too big to pass through your skin normally. So you [00:49:00] can't just, like, put a cream on. So the patches from Ion Layer are awesome, but then they sent me this, uh... I guess it's kind of like an EpiPen, I imagine.

[00:49:08] Luke Storey: I'm

[00:49:08] Alyson Charles Storey: obsessed with this thing.

[00:49:09] Luke Storey: Yeah. And so it comes with, you know, 200 milligrams in this, uh, you know, kind of, uh, chamber, and then you screw one of these little needles on. It comes with a bag of these screw, these, uh, needles. It's

[00:49:22] Alyson Charles Storey: very easy.

[00:49:23] Luke Storey: Yeah, so you screw one of these little needles on, and then you just dial the number on the side.

[00:49:27] Luke Storey: There's a little dial, and you dial it to however many milligrams you want. It comes with a little plan. You wanna do X milligrams for 30 days and so on. Uh, but it's, it's very easy to accurately gauge your dose, and then you just screw this little needle on, and you just pop it in your belly fat, uh, of which I have plenty, and you push the, you know, the little trigger down, and all of a sudden it's over.

[00:49:50] Luke Storey: You literally don't feel the needle going in, which is... You know, sometimes when I'd use the peptides, it's like, ah, I'm not... It's not that fun 'cause the needle does kinda hurt. [00:50:00] But this thing is totally, um, you know-

[00:50:02] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, I'm a big fan.

[00:50:03] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's totally painless. And, you know, you can ramp up your dose quite a bit if you could afford it, and so that's a really cool innovation.

[00:50:15] Luke Storey: Um, this one I think I've talked about before, and I had Matt Maruca, who created this, on the show a few months ago. This is the, uh, raw lighting, Lumios lighting, and this was the first, uh, trip we took where I got to bring their bulbs with us, and I am freaking obsessed. So hopefully many people listening will know that your average LED lighting that we have in our homes is complete trash, and, uh, it's really toxic narrowband with a blue light, completely non-native, unnatural, alien.

[00:50:54] Luke Storey: It doesn't exist in nature. It's, it's an aberration. And so you've got the [00:51:00] spectrum, which is a problem, but then you also have flicker, which is a huge problem for, um, your neurology. When lights flicker, I think LEDs flicker 120 times a second. So if you're wondering if your lights flicker, you can film a slow motion, uh, video on your iPhone, and you'll see if your lights flicker or not.

[00:51:19] Luke Storey: So flicker and toxic blue light are both really bad, and I'm just a huge advocate for dialing in your lighting. So over the years, we've used incandescent bulbs. We have some of those in, you know, most of these rooms, and then there are some pure red LED lights that don't flicker, but they're a very narrow bandwidth of red, which people like you sometimes find irritating, and so on.

[00:51:43] Luke Storey: So I've been looking for the perfect light bulb, 'cause incandescent lights get kind of hot. They use a bit of energy, you know, if you have a bunch of them on in your house, and incandescent lights also flicker a little bit, just not as dramatically as LED lights. LED lights turn all the way on [00:52:00] and all the way off.

[00:52:01] Luke Storey: And the flicker is like a strobe light wherein, um, there's kind of a natural pulse in incandescent lights, so they go dim, bright, dim, bright, dim, bright instead of on, off, on, off, on, off. So less disruptive, but still kind of annoying. The problem with most of your LED lights that are, you know, outside of the toxic blue range, they might be red or orange or whatever, is that they don't have any near-infrared.

[00:52:26] Luke Storey: And, um, the way our houses are built and the way we design our windows cuts out all the infrared light, which is really bad. You need that. You need a full spectrum. So the Lumios lights from, uh, Raw, Raw Optics, they make the glasses and now lighting, Raw Lighting LTD, uh, they figured out how to make near-infrared in an LED light.

[00:52:47] Luke Storey: So they call it an LED incandescent because it has all of the qualities of an incandescent without the heat and without the flicker and with- without the energy consumption. So their bulbs are made so [00:53:00] that you can, uh, well, they, I think they have three different ones where you can flip the switch and change the color tone.

[00:53:05] Luke Storey: So this is the daylight one that has different spectrum of daylight. So if you wanna be alert and focused, you can have that on. But if you want a light that doesn't disrupt your circadian rhythm and sleep at night, you can choose the red or orange. And the lighting is just freaking beautiful. Like, I'm so bummed we only have three of them 'cause I, I wanna do the whole house 'cause it just...

[00:53:28] Luke Storey: I don't know, it's really warm and inviting, and it doesn't irritate your eyes like the purely red bulbs do.

[00:53:34] Alyson Charles Storey: Yes.

[00:53:34] Luke Storey: So not new, but I just wanna give Matt a shout-out and also honest, just be honest when I say I'm so pissed someone else figured this out 'cause if I could invent one product, it would be the perfect light bulb, and he beat me to it.

[00:53:49] Alyson Charles Storey: God bless him.

[00:53:51] Luke Storey: Uh, okay. Next one is Igniton. Let me- I thought it was ignition from- Let me see ... looking at the bottle.

[00:53:58] Alyson Charles Storey: I wanna see one.

[00:53:58] Luke Storey: Yeah. So [00:54:00] Igniton makes two products. This one's called the Igni Cognition, and this freaking thing... I mean, I've taken a lot of nootropics. I remember when, uh, I f- saw this website, I was just like, "Oh, great, like, another generic nootropic.

[00:54:15] Luke Storey: Boring. I'm so over supplements. Like, no one's doing anything cool." It's so rare that somebody makes something that is, I don't know, unique and innovative, or that you actually feel when you take it. And I, I was, like, a little skeptical. I was just like, "I don't know. I've heard of some of these ingredients."

[00:54:31] Luke Storey: Uh, citicoline, alpha-GPC, N-acetyl L-tyrosine, phosphatidylserine, CoQ10, ADH. I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. This is in every, you know, longevity supplement." But there's something they do with their particular formula, um, I don't know, some sort of quantum energy charging. I g- I'll try and track them down for an interview and find out what's up.

[00:54:53] Luke Storey: But this freaking cognition one is, like, a lifesaver. I take this every [00:55:00] single morning, and, uh, I find it's really good for just mental acuity, clarity, memory, focus. But it is absolutely, uh, there's zero stimulation, so it's, it's not at all like caffeine or even paraxanthine. There's no sort of stimulant effect to it.

[00:55:22] Luke Storey: So it's really good for calm flow state, but also, you know, being sharp and alert. So big fan. These guys crushed it. That one you take at night.

[00:55:32] Alyson Charles Storey: Igni Longevity.

[00:55:34] Luke Storey: The Longevity? Yeah, so I, you know, I don't notice that one because I obviously am sleeping when it's doing what it's doing.

[00:55:39] Alyson Charles Storey: This one says in the morning.

[00:55:41] Luke Storey: Oh, for real? Yeah, I've been taking it at night.

[00:55:43] Alyson Charles Storey: It says, "Take two capsules by mouth daily in the morning."

[00:55:46] Luke Storey: Well, that's what, that's why I need it.

[00:55:48] Alyson Charles Storey: That's why you're not even noticing.

[00:55:49] Luke Storey: That's why I'm not feeling it. This one I know not to take at night- Oh, that's right ... 'cause it's, even though it's not stimulating, I mean, it, it definitely, like-

[00:55:56] Alyson Charles Storey: Right.

[00:55:56] Alyson Charles Storey: You- ...

[00:55:56] Luke Storey: lights your brain up. You wanna- But thanks. I learned something new today. [00:56:00] I'm supposed to take them both in the morning. Then I already mentioned the MyVitalC. Now, you know, there's a lot of companies now making C60 products, and, um, you know, it's, it's not as bad as the peptide industry, but it doesn't take a lot of brainpower or equipment to make C60.

[00:56:19] Luke Storey: But it takes a lot of brainpower and equipment and money to make it right, and so I've researched these guys for quite a while now. Um, been aware of them, used their products a few years ago, and then just kinda forgot about it. Uh, but these guys are, like, the C60 OGs. Um, so if you're gonna use C60, this one is the one I'd recommend.

[00:56:38] Alyson Charles Storey: Which one is it?

[00:56:39] Luke Storey: It's called MyVitalC Uh-huh. And it comes in, um, it's MC- Coconut ... C60s, yeah. It needs to be suspended in a fat, so this one you can get in, uh, MCT or olive oil, extra virgin organic olive oil.

[00:56:54] Alyson Charles Storey: There's coconuts on the label, though.

[00:56:56] Luke Storey: This one has MCT, which is made from coconuts. Oh. Yeah. [00:57:00] I, I, I don't, I, I don't mind the, um, you know, the olive oil based ones, but if you're, like, putting it in a drink or something that you don't want to taste like salad dressing, not so much.

[00:57:09] Luke Storey: So I like the coconut one just 'cause it's a- Yeah ... inert flavor Um, I got a lot today. Okay like another category where I'm like, "I'm so done," is like protein powders. If, I mean, co- do- we have enough protein powders. Anyone out there starting a company, we're good. We're good on the protein powder, okay?

[00:57:32] Luke Storey: Especially the collagen protein. There's 50 brands out there, I know 'cause I know people and know, that know some things. All the collagen peptides you get out there, which is, you know, powdered collagen, they're all from like the same place in Argentina, and they're made from, uh, cow hides. And so they use this enzymatic breakdown process to extract the collagen from the hides.

[00:57:57] Luke Storey: No problem. Only thing is, uh, [00:58:00] it's very prone to heavy metal contamination, microbe contamination, so.

[00:58:05] Alyson Charles Storey: Oh, hell

[00:58:06] Luke Storey: no. There are clean brands out there, but you, you gotta really kinda do some due diligence to ensure that your collagen protein is clean. Um, so you know, there's a couple that I've found over the years that I, I like, and then, uh, these guys at Peak T, one of our sponsors, send me their marine collagen peptides.

[00:58:23] Luke Storey: I'm like, "Oh God, you guys, really? We don't need another protein." Dude, this shit is insane. So it's got type I and II collagen, biotin, and pearl powder. Um, the pearl powder is really good for your eyes and for your skin as, of course, is collagen. And so this, rather than being from the cows in Argentina, is actually from, uh, wild fish.

[00:58:44] Luke Storey: And so very bioavailable and really good for hair, skin, nails, and just- I

[00:58:53] Alyson Charles Storey: need to get on that.

[00:58:54] Luke Storey: Oh dude, it's insane.

[00:58:55] Alyson Charles Storey: What do you mix it with, though? Does it

[00:58:56] Luke Storey: have- Anything, that's what I'm getting to ... does

[00:58:58] Alyson Charles Storey: it have a flavor? Oh.

[00:58:58] Luke Storey: It ha- dude, [00:59:00] this stuff, it is so freaking good. Smell that.

[00:59:04] Alyson Charles Storey: Let me smell.

[00:59:05] Luke Storey: It, it's like vanilla- I'll

[00:59:08] Alyson Charles Storey: be the judge of

[00:59:09] Luke Storey: this

[00:59:09] Luke Storey: it's vanilla creamy. It's delicious. And the raddest thing about it is-

[00:59:14] Alyson Charles Storey: All right, it smells pretty good ...

[00:59:16] Luke Storey: you can mix it in any drink and it just instantly dissolves, where some of the other collagen proteins are kind of grainy and they get all clumpy and weird, and they w- they like float to the top, and they're all chunky.

[00:59:29] Luke Storey: This one- So there's

[00:59:29] Alyson Charles Storey: no fishy s- flavor?

[00:59:31] Luke Storey: Oh God no. No, it's freaking delicious. So you put that like in a coffee or a cacao, like with their, uh, uh, Nandica product, the cacao, um, powder. You put some of that, some of that, uh, maybe a little bit of coconut oil or MCT or butter, ghee, whatever, a little fat. Froth that baby up.

[00:59:50] Luke Storey: It's, it's insane. Do

[00:59:50] Alyson Charles Storey: we have more than one bag of this?

[00:59:52] Luke Storey: Unfortunately, no. Um, you, don't touch my- We

[00:59:55] Alyson Charles Storey: need a his and hers.

[00:59:56] Luke Storey: No, we need-

[00:59:58] Alyson Charles Storey: I

[00:59:58] Luke Storey: haven't

[00:59:58] Alyson Charles Storey: tried this ...

[00:59:59] Luke Storey: I need like 10 [01:00:00] pounds of that stuff. It is so good. Another thing that's cool about, um, you know, if you get a really good bioavailable collagen like this is- It's really good for sleep.

[01:00:10] Luke Storey: Like, I take it before I go to sleep too, 'cause it's got, um... When, when you- your body breaks down the collagen, uh, you get a lot of glycine from that, you know? S- sometimes I'll even add extra glycine, but glycine is really good for sleep. So that, and then you, you know, you get on some vitamin C, which helps the synthesis of the collagen to create skin and joints and ligaments and all the things.

[01:00:34] Luke Storey: And then the silica that we have in, in the fridge. Man, if you wanna get the beauty regimen going, silica, this amazing collagen, and vitamin C, and you're golden.

[01:00:47] Alyson Charles Storey: All right. Yeah. Got any more goodies?

[01:00:50] Luke Storey: Yeah, um, yeah. An- okay, ano- another one.

[01:00:52] Alyson Charles Storey: This one just arrived, right?

[01:00:53] Luke Storey: Yeah, just when I think, like, I'm bored of everything.

[01:00:58] Luke Storey: So I- Four Sigmatic sent me [01:01:00] this protein coffee.

[01:01:01] Alyson Charles Storey: I will attest, again, we got home at 1:32 in the morning, and I walk out of the bedroom. Luke's already frothed up a drink, and he's like, "You gotta try this." And it is very good.

[01:01:12] Luke Storey: Dude, it's hella good. So Four Sigmatic, they're like the OGs of the coffee and mushroom space.

[01:01:18] Luke Storey: They were, they were one of my first sponsors, I think, in 2017. Uh, they made these little packets of, like, you know-

[01:01:23] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah ...

[01:01:24] Luke Storey: the mushrooms and coffee and stuff. So they made a protein coffee that's got collagen, creatine, and lion's mane. And so, you know, I, I know the company. They're... I've vetted them. Their stuff is clean, so I'm on board for that.

[01:01:39] Luke Storey: Um, but you know, I'm kinda like, eh, instant coffee. Like, I want French press. I want some real coffee. Anyway, I, you know, I stand corrected. I am humbled. I tried this this morning and it's like-

[01:01:51] Alyson Charles Storey: You're humbled

[01:01:52] Luke Storey: and- ... freaking so good ... embarrassed. And if anyone from Four Sigmatic ever hears this, or anyone who sells a product in, like, a little Ziploc bag like [01:02:00] this, you need to talk to Four Sigmatic, because these guys figured out how to make the little freaking zipper actually close.

[01:02:07] Alyson Charles Storey: It's more like Velcro.

[01:02:09] Luke Storey: Yeah. It's one of the most annoying things about these bags, is like, o- especially if it's a powder. It gets in there, and then you can't- You can't get it out ... close it, and then your stuff gets oxidized and goes bad. So Four Sigmatic made a great product, and also made a Ziploc that actually zips, which is a first I've ever seen in my life.

[01:02:28] Alyson Charles Storey: You're very excited about your goodies today.

[01:02:30] Luke Storey: I mean, it's like every day is Christmas for me. And then I had one more shout-out 'cause I'm just... Last week, the week before this one comes out would've been the one, uh, that I did with the founder of Lima Laser, and so I will have talked about it there. I talked about it in another AMA.

[01:02:48] Luke Storey: But this was the first travel that I was able to do with not one, but two Lima Lasers.

[01:02:55] Alyson Charles Storey: Double fisting.

[01:02:56] Luke Storey: And dude, I'm big [01:03:00] fan.

[01:03:00] Alyson Charles Storey: I'm a big fan, too.

[01:03:01] Luke Storey: I'm on the plane. I mean, they, they market their lasers more for, for beauty, right? For, uh, you know, kind of anti-aging skin and whatnot, but anyone that knows light and lasers, infrared light, they're really good for all kinds of things, uh, especially your brain.

[01:03:17] Luke Storey: So, uh, as you well know, I am psycho on airplanes 'cause flying just completely-

[01:03:23] Alyson Charles Storey: I wouldn't... Don't use that word

[01:03:24] Luke Storey: Whatever. Okay. I'm interesting. I'm an interesting passenger.

[01:03:28] Alyson Charles Storey: You... Okay. We'll give you that.

[01:03:30] Luke Storey: You know, if you were sitting anywhere near me, I- I'm an interesting character, uh, on that plane. Um,

[01:03:37] Alyson Charles Storey: kind of- He zips his face up and-

[01:03:39] Luke Storey: I got my EMF hoodie on.

[01:03:40] Luke Storey: I got my hydrogen inhaler. I'm taking a grip of supplements. I wish I could just get on the plane and be a normal guy, but I don't know. I'm more sensitive than everyone else on the plane apparently, 'cause I just get destroyed by flying. So I'm always looking at things. So I took the Lima Lasers Two, two at [01:04:00] once.

[01:04:00] Luke Storey: And I mean, I'm doing the dome the whole trip 'cause of the blood flow, right? Your blood kind of gets thicker. You lose viscosity. And the vagus

[01:04:09] Alyson Charles Storey: nerve in the neck.

[01:04:10] Luke Storey: I'm doing the vagus nerve in my neck. I'm doing my tinnitus ears. And I just, you know, I'm giving zero Fs. I- I've been the weirdo for my whole life, so I've just kind of embraced it, you know?

[01:04:23] Luke Storey: Some

[01:04:23] Alyson Charles Storey: pe- Well, thankfully you married a fellow weirdo.

[01:04:25] Luke Storey: I was thinking about that. We're on the plane, dude. I'm like, I got antlers on. I'm sitting in my seat with these lasers on my- You have your

[01:04:31] Alyson Charles Storey: nose

[01:04:32] Luke Storey: cannula

[01:04:32] Alyson Charles Storey: in ... cranium With your

[01:04:33] Luke Storey: hydrogen. I got my cannula in. They probably think I'm, like, a really sick person-

[01:04:37] Luke Storey: which maybe I am in some ways. Uh, so I was sitting there thinking, "It's so cool that my wife is unbothered by this." I think a lot of people would feel self-conscious or embarrassed to be associated with the guy. The, the guy, you know? The weird guy. Uh, and you're just chill. Like, sh- Allison doesn't even notice, I think, at this point, you know?

[01:04:58] Luke Storey: It's just, "Oh, he's over there doing his [01:05:00] little- I

[01:05:00] Alyson Charles Storey: couldn't care less ...

[01:05:01] Luke Storey: his little thing." So I, I appreciate that you are confident enough in yourself and you have enough self-esteem- ... that you don't let my objective strangeness, you know, uh, shade your joy.

[01:05:16] Alyson Charles Storey: I'm all about you being healthy and feeling good.

[01:05:20] Alyson Charles Storey: You've been working so ridiculously hard on this book and keeping the podcast going, and all the videos and shoots, and just all the things. You've been really maxing your system out for so long. Oh my

[01:05:33] Luke Storey: God, you're so right.

[01:05:34] Alyson Charles Storey: I just... Whatever you need to do to stay healthy and continue to be well, I'm just like...

[01:05:41] Alyson Charles Storey: I mean, that's one factor. The other factor is I just don't care, and I'm not bothered, and I've always been weird too, so whatever. But I just, yeah, I want you to be healthy, so if you need to double fist the lasers the whole plane ride, whatever.

[01:05:54] Luke Storey: Yeah. And also for the back pain, really great.

[01:05:57] Alyson Charles Storey: I've been ut- utilizing both layers on [01:06:00] my face, um, as I've started to share about, I think, the last o- one or two episodes that we do together.

[01:06:07] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, I'm just the last year or two for the first time noticing, um, especially on camera and especially with this particular rough lighting, um- Which, uh, I was, I was curious. You know, there's like floor- there's like a, a light that you can put on like a-

[01:06:24] Luke Storey: Oh, a up light.

[01:06:25] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. I think I need the up light.

[01:06:27] Luke Storey: Let's do

[01:06:28] Alyson Charles Storey: it. Wonder if we could just set one like right here. Give

[01:06:30] Luke Storey: you a, a, a up light, beauty light.

[01:06:31] Alyson Charles Storey: Give me a little ... Yeah, uh, put one on the floor. But so yeah, I'm noticing things on camera and, um, I... You're supposed to, for the facial rejuvenation for the collagen stimulation and building, utilize the laser every day for the first three months, and then I think you can go to three times a week or once a week, whatever.

[01:06:52] Alyson Charles Storey: So I'm still definitely within the first three months, but I'm really enjoying the how it feels.

[01:06:57] Luke Storey: Me too. I was using it on Cookie [01:07:00] a little bit on the plane, too. Yeah. I mean, the cool thing about the way they designed this laser is it doesn't cause damage the way some other lasers and red light therapy work is kind of like lifting weights, right?

[01:07:10] Luke Storey: You're damaging the muscle and then it comes back stronger.

[01:07:13] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, there are definitely some women who fear, you know, that laser red light actually isn't great, especially if you're a woman working on your face skin, and that it might, um, what do you call, strip down the fat as opposed to- Yeah ... and so people, women get really nervous about that.

[01:07:31] Luke Storey: Yeah, these guys cracked the code on that. It causes no damage and it doesn't heat the tissue. I mean it's like slightly warm, but it's not like, uh, an infrared light where if you held it on yourself long enough you could burn yourself. So yeah, I'm just, I'm obsessed. I'm so stoked that somebody made, um, you know, a laser that's that effective and durable with long lasting battery.

[01:07:51] Luke Storey: Yeah, and

[01:07:51] Alyson Charles Storey: the founder's really sweet. Like she was very fun to chat with and generous and thoughtful and kind and down to earth. I just [01:08:00] enjoyed her as a person which always makes you feel better about the product.

[01:08:02] Luke Storey: Yeah, me too. Me too.

[01:08:04] Alyson Charles Storey: All right. Uh- Ready to show and tell done?

[01:08:07] Luke Storey: Yep, I think that's it

[01:08:14] Luke Storey: We're living in the most advanced time in human history. So why are so many of us exhausted, wired, and barely holding it together? Back when I started this podcast in 2016, I was living under two cell towers in LA, and it was a nightmare. I had insomnia, migraines, blurred vision, vertigo, nausea. My system was just maxed out.

[01:08:37] Luke Storey: It was absolutely terrible. So when I moved to Texas, I hardwired the internet, shielded our bedrooms, and did all the physical EMF mitigation you can imagine. But here's the unfortunate reality. You can't eliminate every signal unless you live in a cave, and that's what led me to Quantum Upgrade. It harmonizes the field you live in so your body stays coherent inside all that [01:09:00] static that you can't control.

[01:09:01] Luke Storey: And this isn't just a feeling. Their research shows improvements in HRV, brainwave balance, and cellular energy. It's pretty simple, really. If your system is under less stress, you're gonna feel it, and I do. What does that look like? Well, I sleep deeper, I think more clearly, and I don't feel wrecked by my environment anymore.

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[01:09:45] Luke Storey: You can also find those links and codes in the show description

[01:09:52] Alyson Charles Storey: Okay. Peewee's being a good support doggy. She's down there resting. Oh, little peanut. Little cutie girl. [01:10:00] Okay, let's see which kinda energy I wanna take us into. Eh, why not? Let's go to another unknown named listener who asks, "How can you move beyond the fear of dying and embracing death as another curious experience of life?"

[01:10:22] Alyson Charles Storey: Beautifully phrased question. I like how they put that.

[01:10:25] Luke Storey: Yeah, it is. I mean, I, I think there's... The only fear that might be comparable is, uh, the fear of public speaking.

[01:10:36] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, it depends on the

[01:10:36] Luke Storey: person. I mean, here's the thing. All fears f- in, in my experience, are ultimately leading to a fear of death, right? So if you take public speaking, flying in an airplane, hypochondria, what, uh...

[01:10:54] Luke Storey: hypochondria, whatever. Any- anything- Even

[01:10:56] Alyson Charles Storey: being a part of a community ...

[01:10:58] Luke Storey: anything that, yeah, anything that we're [01:11:00] afraid of. If you follow the thread, ultimately, that, you know, that you lost your job, or a divorce, or you got foreclosure- Money ... on your house, whatever, right? All of them follow this little thread to the moment you're gonna leave your body before you feel like you want to or you're ready to, you know?

[01:11:19] Luke Storey: So I look at all fears as a fear of death, and, um, you know, I have my fears, I have my anxiety when I'm freaking out about a deadline or something. I don't, in the moment, equate it to death, but if I do a little self-inquiry, okay, what happens if I, if I miss this deadline? Someone's gonna get mad at me. Oh, okay, well, what, what, what happens then?

[01:11:44] Luke Storey: Well, then, you know, I could end up alone if everyone got mad at me. And, you know, as a, as a mammal, we know innately that if we're alone, if we're ostracized, if we're abandoned, we won't make it. We, we need other humans to survive, right? Uh, [01:12:00] or, or then I won't be able to make money. They take my money away.

[01:12:04] Luke Storey: Well, what happens then? Well, then I lose my house, won't be able to eat. Well, then what happens? Then I have to go live under the freeway. Maybe I'll crash with friends for a little while, family. They'll get sick of that. Eventually, I have to go sleep outdoors. Then I could get mugged or beat up.

[01:12:18] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, yeah.

[01:12:19] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, you keep unpacking it, it always goes back there.

[01:12:20] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's like, it's the, the Russian dolls, right? You just keep unpacking those fears, and they, they just all lead to the fear of death. And so, um, m- my practice is knowing that and sensing when I have fear in my body and, and trying to trace it to the ultimate fear, which is death, and remind myself that, um- The more I can face and acknowledge and welcome the moment I leave my body, the less scary it is.

[01:12:55] Luke Storey: Um, but it's something that concerns me, not so much, [01:13:00] um, like a fear of death in that I'm afraid that there's nothing after this. The fear of death for me is more like, "Hmm, how am I gonna know what to do when I leave my body? Or how-- Am I gonna be able to make the right choices, um, in terms of where my soul goes?"

[01:13:21] Luke Storey: You know what I mean? Um, so there's a lot of deception in this 3D realm, and I would assume there's also a lot of deception in the other realms in between this one and all of the infinite number of realms where your soul could go.

[01:13:36] Alyson Charles Storey: I would think the more you can familiarize yourself and really make it your top devotion or top priority in this earth walk, earth life to get to know pure love God and familiarize yourself with pure love God and keep that union and that communication and [01:14:00] relationship thriving and growing and doing all you can every day to stay in pristine alignment with pure love God, knowing that essence, that feeling, that frequency while here, then as and when you cross over, staying fully attuned and in that pristine alignment with pure love God, then I feel like that's the master key.

[01:14:23] Luke Storey: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Getting to know the signature, you know, the signature. You can't, uh, you can't forge a signature very easily. You know? There's a signature to that, that feeling. Yeah, that's a good one. Uh, the other one for me has definitely been 5-MeO-DMT, uh, which is, I don't know, as close as I could imagine to a, a near-death experience because, hmm, your sense of individuality of, like, what makes [01:15:00] you you is kind of-- Well, not kind of.

[01:15:03] Luke Storey: It's very much gone for a few minutes, two, three, five, ten minutes maybe. Yet you're still there, right? It's like, well, I'm, I'm kind of... I don't know if dead's the right word, but the me that I think I am, the Luke story, this character, this, uh, avatar, persona, ego, it's pkk. It just gets pushed aside, yet there's still awareness, right?

[01:15:31] Luke Storey: It's just awareness that is outside of your normal subjectivity. It's a more broad awareness. It's just, you're just in the pureness of awareness, capital A, without, like, an individual you so much, which is what makes it terrifying, because the ego is like, "Uh, no, we need to cling to the me. That's my job," right?

[01:15:56] Luke Storey: And whatever it does to the brain, to the spirit, um, in that [01:16:00] particular medicine experience, you know, there's a there's a separation there between, like, who you are as your soul, a non-local, non-personified being, and the one that's part of your body and nervous system and brain and all the physicality, right?

[01:16:23] Luke Storey: Super scary, but also in terms of fear of death, for me, very affirming because I feel like I died, but I was still alive you know what I mean?

[01:16:33] Alyson Charles Storey: So you could've potentially, if not most likely, been acclimating yourself to the feeling that you will have as you are crossing over-

[01:16:43] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[01:16:43] Alyson Charles Storey: and going into more of that expanse of that love frequency.

[01:16:48] Luke Storey: Yes. Yes, exactly. And also just-

[01:16:52] Alyson Charles Storey: It's almost like you're preparing to know how to do it

[01:16:54] Luke Storey: Yeah, and that's, you know, it's, uh, it's no, uh, accident that I've [01:17:00] not worked with that medicine in many years now. Uh, it's one of those things where I'm like, "Oh, God, I'd really like to," 'cause it's just such a profound experience, but it's also kind of jarring because it's just so it's just so next level.

[01:17:15] Luke Storey: It's so extreme. Um, which is good, 'cause I think it, it's probably not something, uh, that anyone would wanna do, um, many times anyway,

[01:17:27] Alyson Charles Storey: but it's- And, and good at the right time because I have not yet, and I don't know if I ever will, be called to work with that particular medicine. Um, the one time that I was really intentionally tuning in to see if I was called, this was enough years ago, I was already amidst such intense life experiences, uh, that it, uh, when I really sat with it and thought it through and felt it through, I was, like, compounding [01:18:00] bufo- Yeah

[01:18:00] Alyson Charles Storey: along with what I was already experiencing in just everyday life, felt like it could potentially be more traumatizing.

[01:18:07] Luke Storey: Yeah, I

[01:18:07] Alyson Charles Storey: remember that. So I just opted out.

[01:18:08] Luke Storey: I remember that. Um, so that said, you know, to the question, obviously vaporizing toad venom is not something that is appealing to many people or accessible to people, even if they want it.

[01:18:20] Luke Storey: Like, where do you even do that, you know?

[01:18:22] Alyson Charles Storey: Trusted people you had to go to.

[01:18:23] Luke Storey: Yeah, uh, yeah, trusted people, even rarer still. Um, but I, I brought that up not as like, "Oh, just do bufo and you won't be afraid of death anymore," but it's, it's, whatever it takes to get to a point, it, I mean, it could just be Vipassana meditation, you know?

[01:18:39] Luke Storey: Uh, anything that gives us the experience of consciousness to the point where the me-centric perspective, point of view is less dominant, right? We get-- we poke into a [01:19:00] realm where it's like, oh, wow, everything really is connected, and the, the parts of myself and my human experience to which I'm attached become more diffuse and looser.

[01:19:12] Luke Storey: You know? It's like, God, sometimes I think about, you know, losing Cookie or losing you, and it's just... I mean, it feels like a death in and of itself, right? Because I have such a strong attachment or to, you know, our house or my career or youth or whatever, right? So it's like any experience we can enter

[01:19:38] Luke Storey: into that allows us to loosen up those attachments has the net effect of releasing a lot of that fear of the unknown. You know? So it's like, well, if I'm afraid of death, what am I really afraid of? Okay, let's leave aside a violent death where you suffer, where you get injured in a car accident and you're on the side of the road for five hours just, you know, in abject pain.

[01:19:56] Luke Storey: Let's just say you die in your sleep, a peaceful sleep. It's like, what are [01:20:00] we afraid of? It's we're afraid of not being able to take what we think we own with us, right? It's like our relationships, the people we love, uh, material things, all of that. It's like, no, it's, it's not that I don't wanna go over there into the realm outside of the body.

[01:20:16] Luke Storey: It's that I want to keep all the stuff that I have here to which I'm attached. So for me, it's always a practice of identif- whether it's bufo or meditation or anything in between, it's really identifying my attachments and acknowledging that I'm designed to become attached to things and people. That's part of what keeps us on the planet, right?

[01:20:39] Luke Storey: Otherwise, people would have a rough day and they'd ever wanna be offing themselves you know? It's like, you know, there's something that keeps us tethered to this earth realm, and the, and the people and animals and things that, what we experience here.

[01:20:51] Alyson Charles Storey: The other thing that just pinged into me, which I had thought about this week, but I just remembered, it's thundering.

[01:20:57] Alyson Charles Storey: Is that what you're wondering?

[01:20:57] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah.

[01:20:58] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, it's thundering outside.

[01:20:59] Luke Storey: [01:21:00] God's talking to us.

[01:21:00] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. I also have been pondering, imagine the inverse of this when we're in the field, source field with pure love God, and we're in our spirit soul form and devising our next incarnation, and we're, we know that we got selected and we're gonna have another go 'round on Earth.

[01:21:27] Luke Storey: Oh, boy.

[01:21:27] Alyson Charles Storey: Then when we're in soul form, Matt, do, do you think it's just the opposite? Like, when we're, when we know we're gonna have to go through-

[01:21:36] Luke Storey: Oh, we're like, "Goddammit, I don't wanna let go of not having a body."

[01:21:40] Alyson Charles Storey: And also, um, the feeling, too, like it's the... So w- the feeling that we have as a soul spirit, and we know that we gotta go through that voided gestation period of, like Of growing into a physical human [01:22:00] form and knowing the right time to drop our soul into that form when it's to the point where you do that, and then v- v- you know, kind of forgetting what that's gonna feel like, and then knowing we've gotta somehow make it through the, the vagina birth canal, knowing that we've gotta survive that.

[01:22:19] Alyson Charles Storey: I, I've been pondering the exact inverse of when we're in human form, we kinda have this fear of death, but then when we're in soul spirit form, we almost kinda have, I don't know if fear is the right word, but this like, oh my gosh, like, I kinda forget how that goes, and we- I've gotta kerplunk into that form, and I've gotta make it through the vagina or the canal.

[01:22:39] Alyson Charles Storey: Like, do you know what I mean?

[01:22:41] Luke Storey: Totally.

[01:22:41] Alyson Charles Storey: I think we may have the same types of ponderings, just in the opposite way.

[01:22:47] Luke Storey: I never thought of that. That's a really interesting idea.

[01:22:51] Alyson Charles Storey: And I also think for me lately, for whatever reason, I, and I'm not prescribing this, whatever, it's, it's a newer [01:23:00] exploration for me, but I've really been being led over the last couple months to, like, r- for the longest time, I've had an understanding the birth death portal is a one portal.

[01:23:10] Alyson Charles Storey: You know? There's soul spirit coming in, there's soul spirit going out. It's, but it's, it's one portal. It's an in, out, exit, entrance portal. But lately, I I, I personally have just been being led to not really wanting to view it as birth and death anymore. It's just one thing. It's just creation. Mm-hmm.

[01:23:33] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm.

[01:23:34] Alyson Charles Storey: And so because I don't know that I wanna try to explain that in words, I'll just kind of let that transmission be sent for whoever this listener is, if there's anything in that. And just hearing me say that, receiving the transmission of it, there's something in that that lightens the load-

[01:23:56] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm ...

[01:23:56] Alyson Charles Storey: of it for me.

[01:23:57] Alyson Charles Storey: It's, it's one [01:24:00] thing. It's creation.

[01:24:02] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:24:02] Alyson Charles Storey: Because even when we were at my dad's house and I wanted to go out to the yard to pay respects to old Scramial, Scrammy the cat, I loved Samuel. My dad and my brothers had this cat that they think lived to be 25 . They're not sure, but they're pretty positive. And he died last year, and I loved Samuel Scrammy, Scrammy Doo.

[01:24:22] Alyson Charles Storey: He was such a sweet, beautiful silver big boy cat, and they buried him in the backyard, just as we did to Jelly Bean, Jelly Boy. Our black Persian cat is buried in our yard, and interestingly enough, we're in Texas, my family's in Indiana, but both cat burials, there are these clovers that only started to grow in the cat burial sites for both of us that are not prevalent or noticeable in oth- the, any other part of the yard.

[01:24:53] Alyson Charles Storey: And a- again, it's that same thing. It's like this, this offering to the womb of Great Mother [01:25:00] Earth, and then in exchange there's this other thing that gets created.

[01:25:04] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm.

[01:25:04] Alyson Charles Storey: You know? And so rather than viewing it an exit or entrance or a birth or a death, it's just I'm being led to viewing it and feeling it and experiencing it as this transmission of one simple thing that is also perhaps the most profound thing, and that is creation.

[01:25:24] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm.

[01:25:24] Alyson Charles Storey: It's simply cr- all of this is simply creation.

[01:25:27] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm.

[01:25:28] Alyson Charles Storey: And there's something different about the energy of feeling it and talking about it in that way as opposed to death and birth. And there's also one big point I wanted to make along this, 'cause I actually really like this subject matter. Feels very natural and at home to me.

[01:25:44] Alyson Charles Storey: In the last five years I have just been fortunate enough to be able to witness this type of creation, AKA death, in, in various forms. You know, I had my own near-death experience. [01:26:00] I have witnessed very close people in my life, whether it be blood family members or soul family members, come also to death's door, and s- some made it and some crossed over.

[01:26:13] Alyson Charles Storey: I've been able to witness, um, multiple animals and humans make their passageway back home to God. When we were in Indiana, like the handling of ashes, w- witnessing you, you know, take your father's ashes climbing up that huge, biggest peak in Aspen. And like the videos that you have, and you were so generous to share last year that one video on Instagram where you were delivering your father's ashes to his favorite mountain peak in Colorado and like There's something just so profound that has led me into such different scopes and textures and layers of wisdom [01:27:00] around what we call death, and so many different forms that in the generosity of these animals and pets allowing me to be witness to them make their passageway home to God, I'm now one of the many mind-blowing beyond words gifts that I've been bestowed in those processes is I am now c- completely differently more equipped to make my own passageway home.

[01:27:32] Alyson Charles Storey: Because I was allowed, I was given the gift to be witness to someone else doing it, and in learning how they did it, oh my gosh, it is the most profound gift I can imagine for someone to let you into, you know, we were able to... You know, there's different examples, which I won't go into detail about, but, you know, just one being your father, you know, and [01:28:00] in the hospital room.

[01:28:01] Alyson Charles Storey: And when you're witnessing someone's soul find their cadence, and, you know, even if you maybe don't have the gifts online that I do as a seer and a- able to venture into these different realms and dimensions so on demand or consciously. I think we all have these gifts. I've just really exercised them to come alive and be very, very present and robust.

[01:28:29] Alyson Charles Storey: But when I'm watching this human form and the soul find its way and the pacing and how it will exit out of the human body and, like, tend to this thing and, like, commune with God and then, like, kind of take another bit of time to enter back in so that the soul feels more present for you as the son and your brothers to have more of a conscious moment of completion, and then when the soul feels that you and your brothers have reached that [01:29:00] full completion of sharing whatever you need to say, then the soul travels back out.

[01:29:04] Alyson Charles Storey: I mean, like, what profound learning. And I just happened in the last five years to have been graced, um- With the ab- ability to be present to these remembrances and these relearnings of how it's done. And so I just, you know, wanna thank these animals and humans again, ah, just from the center-most illuminated part of my heart, like, thank you for allowing me to be there.

[01:29:34] Alyson Charles Storey: Thank you for allowing me to remember. Thank you for allowing me to receive the codes of these holiest of portals, this holiest of creation portal. I mean, if I could give one piece of advice, it's like, especially over here in the US, you know, in Africa and so many other countries, like, being witness to someone making their passageway is so commonplace.

[01:29:55] Alyson Charles Storey: It's like, it's not, like, tucked away in a corner and [01:30:00] feared. It's, it's just more present. And gosh, I just think, wow, if, if over here in the US and Western culture we were more acclimatized to being able to talk about death, AKA creation portal, and be witness to the process more, that alleviates 90-plus percent of the fear.

[01:30:22] Luke Storey: Totally.

[01:30:23] Alyson Charles Storey: It's, it's so beautiful and it's so holy.

[01:30:27] Luke Storey: Yeah. There's a, a guest we had on a couple years ago named Stephen Jenkins. Jenkins? I don't, I don't know if you were here that day. He's a Canadian guy, older fella, really cool clothes, long hair, really neat-

[01:30:39] Alyson Charles Storey: Oh, yes ... neat-looking He was really fascinating.

[01:30:41] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. What was his

[01:30:42] Luke Storey: book? Uh, I think it's called Die Wise.

[01:30:44] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, we have it here.

[01:30:45] Luke Storey: And he- Yeah,

[01:30:46] Alyson Charles Storey: I enjoyed him.

[01:30:46] Luke Storey: Yeah, really great guy. Unfortunately, we only had around 45 minutes, uh, that day. Very

[01:30:50] Alyson Charles Storey: unique fella.

[01:30:51] Luke Storey: Yeah, he was, he was really cool. Um, Kimberly Ann Johnson introduced me to him. Yeah. Another, uh, former guest.

[01:30:58] Luke Storey: But, um, you know, he's someone [01:31:00] who's spent a lot of time in hospice and just experienced a lot of people leaving their body, you know? And, um, his whole perspective is very much aligned with yours, and that is that one of the reasons we in the West are so afraid of death is because it's something that we just, you know, shy away from.

[01:31:20] Luke Storey: We have such an aversion to it. It's like

[01:31:21] Alyson Charles Storey: the fear of the unknown, because you- Yeah ... don't know it, because you're not given the opportunity to watch it-

[01:31:26] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[01:31:27] Alyson Charles Storey: and witness other people find their way home.

[01:31:29] Luke Storey: Yeah. Part of, there are many reasons why, uh, but part of the reason why I really wanted to be very present to my dad's death, um, was for that reason.

[01:31:45] Luke Storey: It's just, I mean, I could go on and on. There's so many reasons, but one of the many reasons other than, you know, the main one is just I really love the guy, and I just wanna be there till their last breath, you know. That's the main one, but also just is so [01:32:00] painful and so scary and so uncomfortable that I know from past experiences, if I can meet an edge like that and show up for it, there's so much to be learned and gained from, from having the ability and, and courage to face that, you know?

[01:32:20] Luke Storey: And so my dad was in the hospital. I mean, no one's making me stay there. Uh, some of the other people went and got some sleep, you know, and it's just... There's-- You couldn't have dragged me out of there , you know? It's like you coulda called the cops. They're not getting me out of that room. I'm gonna wait until he's done, you know?

[01:32:40] Luke Storey: Um, and again, so many reasons for that, but one of them is just like, "Oh my God, this is so fucking weird." I mean, the life support shit. I mean, the whole scene was just so surreal, so gnarly.

[01:32:54] Alyson Charles Storey: So much learning.

[01:32:55] Luke Storey: Yeah, so gnarly, but within that, as you said, [01:33:00] also just so much beauty and grace and just-

[01:33:05] Alyson Charles Storey: Profundity

[01:33:05] Luke Storey: and just the mystery of the whole thing, where I was just like, "Whoa." There's nothing trippier than sitting in a room with someone you deeply love, knowing 100% that they're about to leave, you know? Um, not a comfortable experience to have at all, but seen his

[01:33:50] Luke Storey: Bearing witness to someone in that state gives you a unique access [01:34:00] point to their nobility There's like, it's the utmost vulnerability and also nobility at the same time. There's just like a real grace in that and that was such a rich experience, as painful as it was, and just the memory of it still, I mean, it's just like, oh my God.

[01:34:26] Luke Storey: Yeah. It's heartbreaking, but it's also- It's

[01:34:27] Alyson Charles Storey: like the ultimate power in a way.

[01:34:29] Luke Storey: Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's the ultimate surrender. You know what I mean? It's just my yeah, one of my primary guiding principles is surrender, as I know it is for you, too. You know? So it's just like, wow, it, it, staying in that room is an act of surrender for me because there's zero I can do to control that situation or change the outcome or change how it feels in, in me, in, [01:35:00] in my experience of it.

[01:35:01] Luke Storey: You know? So it's just, wow, surrendering to the humanity of this moment, the reality of this moment, the depth of this moment, and surrendering the attachment I have to my dad in that form Surrendering my own fear of losing him and my own fear, uh, of mortality, right? It's like when your parent-- Well, I have one, you know, my mom thankfully is still alive, but, you know, my dad, I don't know, there's something about, he's the, you know, the patriarch of the family, and I'm next in line as his first son.

[01:35:35] Luke Storey: Uh, you know, there's a sense of finality and inevitability to that, that lands different, I think, um, than it would if I was a daughter or a third son or something, right? It's just like, "Oh, shit. Well, logically, if he's going, then I'm next," you know?

[01:35:51] Alyson Charles Storey: Hmm.

[01:35:52] Luke Storey: So there's a lot of, um, reconciliation of my own mortality.

[01:35:56] Luke Storey: So f- to, you know, bringing it all the way back around to that [01:36:00] question, I would say facing death in any opportunity one has is a really healthy experience. There's, um-

[01:36:08] Alyson Charles Storey: It's so sacred.

[01:36:10] Luke Storey: Yeah. There's a, um, I think it's, uh, it's from one of the philosophers in ancient Greece or something. I, I've always wanted to figure out who actually said this or who, who it's attributed to, but it goes something like this: "If you die before you die, when you die, you don't die."

[01:36:27] Alyson Charles Storey: Hmm.

[01:36:28] Luke Storey: Right? So it's like, how many little deaths can I invite into my experience? And little deaths to me are just how many things can I-- that I find myself resisting or, uh, things to which I'm attached, how many of those can I let go every day, you know? How much can I just surrender, accept, surrender, accept, um, even of the small things so that, you know, when the ultimate surrender happens, when you're like, "Okay, I can't hang onto this body anymore," I feel like it is a much less scary endeavor, you know?

[01:36:59] Luke Storey: And it's one of the reasons, [01:37:00] I meant to say this earlier, you know, when you're talking about the death and birth portal just being a creative transition or the act of creation. That's one of the reasons I don't really get sad when I see dead animals. I mean, I'm not stoked about it. We saw so much roadkill in Indiana.

[01:37:16] Luke Storey: There's, deer get hit here all the time, and it's like, I'd be sad if there's an animal that's suffering and in a lot of pain. Right. You know? But it's like, if a deer gets clipped, and they just instantly leave their body, it's just, I know that they're not dead. They just, the life force that was animating that particular physical form can't be killed, therefore, because you can't kill energy.

[01:37:44] Luke Storey: I mean, you can't like try killing electricity. You know? It's like you can't kill it 'cause it's, it's not alive in a sense. You know? It just is. It just, it's existence. So I know from my hunting trip a few years ago, you know, killing this big boar, it's just, I [01:38:00] walked up to it and watched it die, and it was so clear that it didn't die, that it just, it just became a less concentrated, a less uniquely identified Part of consciousness.

[01:38:18] Luke Storey: It just went, it actually, it was born in that moment, you could say, right?

[01:38:22] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, the expanse of it is so-

[01:38:23] Luke Storey: Yeah, it was, it was actually more so than it died, it was born into the totality of consciousness. Exactly. Reabsorbed into the ether, you

[01:38:32] Alyson Charles Storey: know? Yeah. So maybe there's something about the languaging, too, for this person to explore.

[01:38:37] Alyson Charles Storey: It's like rather than die, death, it's like what words might resonate more to this person.

[01:38:44] Luke Storey: Another thing- Expansion ... and then, and then we can get on to maybe one more, uh, is something that is, again, it's a little bit of an edge for me. I don't find it totally comfortable, but I do like to read books about and listen to interviews with people [01:39:00] who have had NDEs.

[01:39:01] Luke Storey: I have a book over there. It's called The Big Book of Near Death Experiences. Yeah,

[01:39:04] Alyson Charles Storey: I've been trying to get you a, h- to have a near-death, um, experience expert on your show for years.

[01:39:10] Luke Storey: Oh, I was gonna say, you want me to have one? I mean, you could throw me over the balcony.

[01:39:13] Alyson Charles Storey: Honey.

[01:39:14] Luke Storey: Um, yeah. It's been so long to me I, I, I do.

[01:39:16] Luke Storey: If anyone listening or watching, by the way, if, if you n- if you know of any, uh, you know, people that have had those experiences and are well-versed in sharing about them, um, but listening to and reading about people that have had those experiences a lot has really helped me, too, because, um, without exception, anyone I've ever heard that describes leaving their body describes it as a beautiful, peaceful, uh, just the greatest experience of their life.

[01:39:48] Luke Storey: They've never felt a love like that, the whole thing, right? It's like they describe it, um, many as, you know, taking off a pair of tight shoes. You leave your body and it's like, "Oh, thank God." You know? It's [01:40:00] like, what is that thing, you know? So I, I find those to be, A, just really fascinating and inspiring, but also reaffirming that not only is there something after this, uh, but there's something beautiful there waiting for us rather than something scary.

[01:40:18] Luke Storey: And I think it's, I'm, you know, I'm not a religious man per se, but I have a sense that your experience when you leave the body is probably to some degree, if not a high degree, determined by the choices that you made while you were here, and that's one of the things that keeps me, mm, uh, keeps my moral compass tuned.

[01:40:43] Luke Storey: You know? I d- I'm not trying to accrue any more bad karma. I've, I've earned a lot of karma and had to work a lot of it off. Um, and so, you know, when I leave my body, I'm really looking forward to having an experience that is [01:41:00] not, um imbued with darkness in any way

[01:41:04] Alyson Charles Storey: I'm interested in the pleasure, you know, the just boundless, blissful pleasure expanse that we feel as we, uh, find our passageway back home to God, um, anchoring that and being able to access and experience that here on Earth too, heaven on Earth.

[01:41:25] Luke Storey: Yep. Yep

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[01:43:06] Alyson Charles Storey: Uh, are you sure you wanna do one more?

[01:43:09] Luke Storey: Um, yeah, maybe one that's not so deep.

[01:43:13] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, I mean, but I mean, okay, so I'll let you pick. You can- Okay ... talk about, uh, thoughts on skincare or, or do you wanna just wrap up along this vein?

[01:43:23] Alyson Charles Storey: Let me read this. Nothing

[01:43:24] Luke Storey: is more superficial than skincare.

[01:43:27] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, exactly. But-

[01:43:28] Luke Storey: Figuratively and literally ...

[01:43:28] Alyson Charles Storey: so you can figure that one out, or you can answer Mahdev's question. In the world of clinical data and longevity, we spend all of our time trying to, quote-unquote, "solve the biological vessel." But the friction this person is feeling lately is, once the biology is optimized, we're still left with the same existential weight.

[01:43:47] Alyson Charles Storey: How do you balance the relentless drive for extreme physical longevity with the spiritual necessity of surrendering to our impermanence? So it's like you could- Mm-hmm ... just kind of finish the vein- Mm ... of [01:44:00] thought that we're on with answering that- Yeah, that's- ... or

[01:44:02] Luke Storey: talk

[01:44:02] Alyson Charles Storey: about

[01:44:02] Luke Storey: skincare. That's good. Let's do that 'cause I can answer skincare really quick.

[01:44:05] Luke Storey: Um, get a healthy amount of sun. I like Alitura Skincare products. I like, uh, Young Goose. I think those are the two that we ha- we have around the house at, at the moment. Um, but mostly, skincare is an inside job, you know? It's, um, uh, it's keeping yourself, um, as uninflamed as you can. Um-

[01:44:29] Alyson Charles Storey: I like the QuickSilver, um, GHK-Cu face serum.

[01:44:33] Luke Storey: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[01:44:33] Alyson Charles Storey: You can get... You don't have to do the injectable peptide to get the GHK-Cu. They, they make a face serum that you just put on your face.

[01:44:42] Luke Storey: I mean, the thing for me is, uh, I don't, I don't know why, but I've always just... I'm always very well moisturized. Like, I've always used some kinda oils and cream.

[01:44:53] Luke Storey: Not like, you know, Jergens lotion from CVS, but, you know, um, tallow or whatever it is. [01:45:00] Um, I, I feel like my skin is always kind of lubricated with something healthy and good, and I also get a lot of sun. I mean, if I'm, if I'm out in, like, really hot sun, I won't... You know, I'll usually wear a hat Um, but I do get, you know, a fair amount of sun, and, um, I think for my age, I don't, I don't...

[01:45:18] Luke Storey: I s- I meet guys that are my age that have many more wrinkles than I do, so. Yeah,

[01:45:21] Alyson Charles Storey: you look very wonderful.

[01:45:23] Luke Storey: So well, I'm not, I'm not fishing for compliments, but I think I've done okay with the skin thing, uh, and it's not something I've ever really tried to work on, but I do just, I make sure that I'm always, like- Supple

[01:45:35] Luke Storey: nur- nourishing my skin. You're

[01:45:36] Alyson Charles Storey: supple and moist.

[01:45:38] Luke Storey: I'm always nourishing it, and I'm getting a lot of, a lot of good sun.

[01:45:41] Alyson Charles Storey: The one tidbit I would put in there is I'm not sure what about the skincare this person, 'cause they were also unknown, um, you know, 'cause I, I thankfully have never had to, uh, sort out or crack a code around acne.

[01:45:56] Alyson Charles Storey: So it's like I don't know if this person wants skincare tips [01:46:00] due to a skin issue like that, or if it's something more like, you know, just being able to keep things firm as you age and lifted. But yeah, the more I'm learning about that side of things is, you know, doing things to really tend to the ligaments and tendons and the structure underneath your skin and your face is what's really vitally important as you age.

[01:46:25] Alyson Charles Storey: 'Cause it's like the reason the face starts to droop and get saggy, it's not necessarily the skin or only the skin, it's the structure underneath that's not holding it up. The, the ligaments start to atrophy. So I guess it would be like the c- uh- Yeah ... collagen- Get a 5,000 power

[01:46:43] Luke Storey: laser.

[01:46:44] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, the laser or the, the col- the collagen stuff.

[01:46:46] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah,

[01:46:46] Luke Storey: I mean, yeah, the, as

[01:46:47] Alyson Charles Storey: I was- The stuff that keeps your tendons- Yeah ... and structural integrity.

[01:46:51] Luke Storey: Totally, yeah. The, the collagen, vitamin C, and silica, that's it. But something that just came to mind that's, like, the most obvious is, um, sleep, man. [01:47:00] Like, sleep has got... Especially as you get older. I mean, dude, sleep is so important to me, uh, and I think that that is gonna have a lot to do with the longevity of your skin because that's when all the repair is happening.

[01:47:16] Luke Storey: And also, uh, another thing that really trashes your skin is the oxidation that comes from eating a lot of omega-6, uh, and oxidized rancid seed oils. Seed oils are terrible for your skin and cause lipofuscin, these age spots. And the other thing is blue light, uh, being around a lot of, uh, artificial blue light, which also includes being indoors behind windows because windows filter the balance of UVA and U- UVB.

[01:47:46] Luke Storey: And so, um, that's why people, you know, truck drivers that, like, get the spots all over their left arm from driving with the window right there, uh, that happens because the light is adulterated through glass. And [01:48:00] so sun through glass is really not good for your skin. Okay, that's the skin one, and then, uh, the last one-

[01:48:07] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, let's wrap it up on this.

[01:48:08] Alyson Charles Storey: It's just the- Yeah ... the balancing of the relentless drive for physical longevity, but also the surrender into we're impermanent.

[01:48:15] Luke Storey: Yeah, totally. So for me, uh, I've never been after longevity. I know there's, like, a whole biohacking scene around, like, living a long time.

[01:48:25] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, people pick, like, a certain age that they- Mm-hmm

[01:48:27] Alyson Charles Storey: have a goal to live to. Yeah,

[01:48:28] Luke Storey: that's-- I mean, it's good, good for them. That's just not something that's ever been appealing to me. Um, I personally, I believe that the moment you leave your body is already set, uh, kind of like when you, uh, are watching a DVD or a videotape of a movie. Um, you don't know how it's gonna end unless you've, you know, seen it before or read the script.

[01:48:53] Luke Storey: But you know at 120 minutes it's over, you know? And so I just think whenever God, [01:49:00] uh, is planning for me to leave, there's nothing I can do about it anyway. So that solves that. However, being physically vital and healthy is really important to me 'cause I hate pain and I just don't like to suffer. As I was just sitting here talking, I just had this massive flare of tinnitus on this side.

[01:49:19] Luke Storey: Just went like

[01:49:23] Luke Storey: Do I wanna live to 120 of that? No, I'm good. You know? It's like whenever I'm supposed to go, I'm down. Um, to me, the effort that I put into being physically healthy and all the products I take and all the things I'm experimenting with, I just wanna feel as good as I possibly can while I'm here so I can do what I'm here to do.

[01:49:41] Alyson Charles Storey: So it's less about longevity and it's more about feeling-

[01:49:44] Luke Storey: Quality- ... thri- thriving ... of life. Quality of life, not quantity of life, for me, personally. So I'm not hung up on that. Um, but I do wanna feel really good, and I wanna have energy. I mean, thankfully, I have a lot of energy, so that's not a problem for [01:50:00] me.

[01:50:00] Luke Storey: But I do have, you know, a sore back and tinnitus, and I have my, like, aging issues, right? Eyes are a little funky, need glasses sometimes, et cetera. Uh, but I truly believe, and I say this all the time, people don't believe me 'cause I promote all these products and do all this stuff, so much of our physical health is driven by our emotional health and our spiritual, um, relationship to existence, you know?

[01:50:32] Luke Storey: And so even I was working with, um, Brandy, um... Jared, what's Brandy's last name? Gilmore. Brandy Gilmore. And I was working with her 'cause sh- she was able to help people heal themselves of all kinds of things, and so we were working on the tinnitus things, and it's like, "Wow, there's one thing I haven't tried."

[01:50:49] Luke Storey: And a couple calls with her, she identified, like, how much I'm living in fear and resentment of the government, you know? And she's like, "Why do you-"

[01:50:58] Alyson Charles Storey: You have, like, an- yeah, [01:51:00] anger toward

[01:51:00] Luke Storey: the government. Yeah, like, "Why do you wanna walk around with those feelings?" And I'm like, "Oh my God, I didn't even see that," right?

[01:51:06] Luke Storey: So it's like that is not having a positive impact on my body. It's like the biology of belief, the epigenetics, you know? It's like what kind of thoughts am I having? What, what kind of feelings am I giving energy to? Um, I think a lot of our physical problems, including longevity or quality of life or quantity of life, whatever you're going for, so much of that is really determined by our mental state and, um, the degree to which we are willing or able to process past traumas and hurts and get our mind and emotions right, you know?

[01:51:44] Luke Storey: It's like all these supplements and biohacking and shit, dude, y- trust me, I've tried. You cannot biohack your way out of, you know, a bad attitude or an existential feeling of [01:52:00] doom, right? It's like it's really an inside job. So if I was someone that wanted to live until I was 150 or whatever, I think the supplements and all those things are much less meaningful than the energy that I'm living with, um, in terms of how I think and how I speak and the kind of people I'm around, my environment, my relationships, connections.

[01:52:25] Luke Storey: I really believe the spiritual and emotional and mental aspects of ourselves trump biology because those are the things that actually

[01:52:35] Alyson Charles Storey: Go with

[01:52:36] Luke Storey: you ... pull the levers of our biology. And that's why you have people, I believe at least, you have people that live till they're 100 and drink whiskey and smoked a pack a day.

[01:52:44] Luke Storey: It's like their mind's right, you know? Mm-hmm. Maybe there's some genetics in there, too, but it's like they're people that have a positive attitude. These, these old-timers in Sardinia, Italy or whatever, they're walking up and down little hills in their village all day, and probably eating a pretty healthy diet, [01:53:00] but they're smoking and drinking espresso

[01:53:01] Alyson Charles Storey: and- And the thing that-

[01:53:02] Luke Storey: drinking wine and living their best life 'cause they're happy, and they're connected with other people.

[01:53:06] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, and the equanimity part, too. I think that, you know, for the last, like, four years, that that was a message, an instruction, an assignment that God very clearly brought into my field and, um, my, my life.

[01:53:21] Alyson Charles Storey: And so I've just steadily been attuning to that and studying that and embodying that more and more, and that's been such a game changer, just the equanimity piece.

[01:53:31] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:53:31] Alyson Charles Storey: Not getting so butt-hurt and uptight about things. More levity and-

[01:53:36] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[01:53:36] Alyson Charles Storey: more carefreeness. And to say carefree, it's, like, not that you don't care about yourself and others in life.

[01:53:42] Alyson Charles Storey: It's just that you don't get so, like, constricted with your energy and, um, uptight and bogged down and have things feel, uh, as heavy or burdensome anymore. There's just, like, a different way you start to find when equanimity becomes, um, [01:54:00] an, a big intention. One last thing, uh, that I wanna wrap with that just kinda entered- Mm-hmm

[01:54:03] Alyson Charles Storey: the field, it was around the creation portal and my pondering of when we're more in the soul spirit form and know that we've gotta... That it's our time to incarnate, and just the inverse of what we feel as humans when we know we've got to exit out.

[01:54:22] Luke Storey: I'm so glad you brought that up 'cause that sounds j- it's equally as scary as being a human and leaving your body and going into those realms.

[01:54:29] Luke Storey: I never thought about it, though.

[01:54:30] Alyson Charles Storey: Well,

[01:54:31] Luke Storey: but- But you gotta be shitting your pants from the other side going, "Oh, my God. I'm going to Earth? Like, Earth is so ghetto."

[01:54:36] Alyson Charles Storey: Well, I don't... Okay, so that's my point, though, is actually in the source field, if fear doesn't exist there-

[01:54:46] Luke Storey: Oh, right.

[01:54:47] Alyson Charles Storey: Right ... here's... But here, yeah, but stick with me, though.

[01:54:49] Alyson Charles Storey: Let me talk. If- If fear doesn't exist in the source field, and we're in soul spirit form knowing that it's our [01:55:00] time to remember how to kerplunk down into the fetus and the belly, and we know we've gotta make the passageway down the birth canal, what if the fear of that part of the process of incarnating doesn't exist 'cause fear doesn't exist in the for- source field?

[01:55:24] Alyson Charles Storey: We just need to, while we're in human form, remember and attune to that essence that we fully have and are fully equipped with because our soul has that and knows that to do the inverse, to do the incarnation.

[01:55:41] Luke Storey: Wow.

[01:55:42] Alyson Charles Storey: So while we're here in human form, maybe I'll d- record a guided meditation. Maybe I'll do a shamanic journey.

[01:55:48] Alyson Charles Storey: Maybe I'll do some sort of gathering. Maybe I'll do some sort of practice where People can start to attune to and get reacquainted with that [01:56:00] essence and that fearless form of knowing how

[01:56:06] Alyson Charles Storey: to do these two biggest points of creation, the incarnation to Earth and the passageway back home to God. You don't have the fear attached to get the incarnation, so we know we have that encoded. That, we have that. So while we're in human form, we just need to re-attune to the remembrance of what that feels like to have our exit be the same thing.

[01:56:32] Luke Storey: If I could drop this mic, I would.

[01:56:34] Alyson Charles Storey: If I could throw this mic.

[01:56:36] Luke Storey: Dude, I've never, I've never thought about it that way. That's so beautiful. And going back to the NDE community, if there is such a thing.

[01:56:48] Alyson Charles Storey: Oh, I'm sure there is.

[01:56:49] Luke Storey: All of them report the minute you leave your body, you can't even imagine what fear is like.

[01:56:54] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[01:56:55] Luke Storey: It's, it's, like, beyond your... You, you, you have no relationship to fear. It's

[01:56:59] Alyson Charles Storey: just like [01:57:00] an Earth construct.

[01:57:01] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. 'Cause you're in a goddamn body, and the body's designed to stay alive, so it has to be afraid of shit all the time. So

[01:57:06] Alyson Charles Storey: we've got this big passageway to make as a soul spirit into human form.

[01:57:12] Alyson Charles Storey: We're able to do that with no fear.

[01:57:15] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:57:15] Alyson Charles Storey: It's just this innate intelligence. We're probably just, like, in full trust and wisdom and joy to do the incarnation. So we have that.

[01:57:24] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:57:25] Alyson Charles Storey: Our soul is in our meat suit, so we have that same intelligence and wisdom within us right now. We just have to get reacquainted and reconnected with that essence to have the passageway back to God feel of that same fearless, wisdom-filled state.

[01:57:44] Luke Storey: Oh my God. You just cracked the code on the human experience, baby.

[01:57:47] Alyson Charles Storey: Hey, it came into the field. I don't know that I can take credit for it. As you were sharing that last answer, it literally entered the field to me to say that.

[01:57:55] Luke Storey: That's, that's deep. Yeah, that's deep. I mean, that That might [01:58:00] be the, um, the PhD, uh, dissertation.

[01:58:03] Luke Storey: You have a final exam, right? It's like, can you be in a body and embrace the earthly experience with that degree of fearlessness, the degree of fearlessness with which you exist outside of space and time beyond a body? That's

[01:58:20] Alyson Charles Storey: the ultimate of ultimate full circle moment.

[01:58:23] Luke Storey: Yeah. Maybe that's what enlightenment is, in a sense, right?

[01:58:25] Luke Storey: When you read or m- if you're lucky enough to be in the same room with someone who's truly enlightened, you know, I, I get that sense that they're, they're outside of the kind of fear that the rest of us, you know, kind of have to manage throughout our life.

[01:58:40] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah, 'cause we've spoken of, you know, some of the other, you know, what would be classified or they classify themselves as enlightened or masters.

[01:58:48] Alyson Charles Storey: They, they have ... They're smiling all the time, laughing all the time, you know, they are- And

[01:58:53] Luke Storey: everything is funny-

[01:58:55] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah ...

[01:58:55] Luke Storey: even tragedy.

[01:58:55] Alyson Charles Storey: Everything.

[01:58:56] Luke Storey: It's like, "Ha ha ha." Yeah. "You hear our uncle died? Oh yeah." Yeah. [01:59:00] "That's great," you know?

[01:59:00] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. Like what- Good for him. Yeah.

[01:59:02] Luke Storey: It, you know- Yeah ... it's funny too, right? It's like it, to the uninitiated, it would seem like madness- Mm.

[01:59:10] Alyson Charles Storey: Mm ...

[01:59:10] Luke Storey: right? That that person's just, like, crazy. An enlight- an enlightened person amongst a civilization that is largely insane is going to- Mm-hmm ... appear to be the one who's insane when- Right ... they're actually the one who's sane.

[01:59:27] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah.

[01:59:28] Luke Storey: Right?

[01:59:29] Alyson Charles Storey: Yeah. Perfect note to end on. That's,

[01:59:30] Luke Storey: that's cool. All right. God bless.

[01:59:32] Luke Storey: All right. Well, thanks for, thanks for joining us, folks, uh, those of you that, um, you know, made it to the end. Oh, goddammit, I forgot one of my other things. I'll talk about it deeper next time, but there's a, a lot of hype around peptides right now. Um, I started using peptides, I don't know, 10 years ago or so, nine years ago.

[01:59:52] Luke Storey: Um, you had to order them on the, you know, on the dark web. It was a little shady. Um, you had to really do your due [02:00:00] diligence. Well, now some of the regulations are loosening up, which is great, but that also means there's a bunch of people trying to make money.

[02:00:06] Alyson Charles Storey: Mm.

[02:00:06] Luke Storey: And this is shit you're injecting into your body, and they're pharmaceuticals, you know?

[02:00:10] Luke Storey: For all the anti-pharmaceutical people out there, um, guess what? Peptides are pharmaceuticals. So I'm always working really hard to vet, uh, these different companies, um, you know, so that whether I'm gonna use them, especially if you're gonna use them, I'm willing to kind of take one for the team and experiment a bit, but I wouldn't want you to do that.

[02:00:29] Luke Storey: So recently found this company called Solyn, S-O-L-Y-N, and, uh, of the companies that I've researched, these guys have, um, just, like, psychotic level, uh, third-party verification and, um-

[02:00:48] Luke Storey: They have very strict manufacturing processes and, uh, the ability to validate that manufacturing, uh, process. And so I'm really [02:01:00] excited to have found a very clean, uh, you know, verifiable peptide. So that was that one.

[02:01:06] Alyson Charles Storey: Okay.

[02:01:07] Luke Storey: Yeah. So I forgot to mention that earlier 'cause it's not... You know, it's a tiny vial, and you gotta keep it in the refrigerator.

[02:01:12] Luke Storey: Uh, thanks for everyone who's tuned in today. Again, the show notes will be clickable in the show description on your podcast apps, or you can go to lukestory.com/674 for complete transcript, show notes, links to everything we talked about. There's discount codes for any of the, uh, the products that I, that I support and all that.

[02:01:33] Luke Storey: So we'll see you next time.

[02:01:35] Alyson Charles Storey: Ta-ta for now.

[02:01:41] Luke Storey: And that, my friends, is what we call a wrap. Thanks for hanging out on this week's episode of The Lifstylist. But before I sign off, I want to remind you about one of the best ways to support the show while also upgrading your life, my online master market. That's where I've curated a collection of my favorite lifestyle design [02:02:00] products, world-class supplements, EMF protection gear, water purification, blue light solutions, biohacking tech, and tons more.

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